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bakerocb
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: Chase Plane |
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6/20/2010
Hello Scott, You wrote: "...... when I have a chase plane......"
I have many flight hours instructing formation flight, and quite a few hours
flying formation in air shows and chasing newbie pilots in single seat
aircraft.
Any time I read the words: "formation flying", "chase plane", "air to air
photography" or the like my warning flags start fluttering rapidly in the
breeze. Here are two of the accidents that come floating by in that breeze:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 060209X00189&key=1
http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/XB-70_crash_site.htm
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
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Hi Larry,
I'm not sure exaclty what speed I lifted off at, but it was pretty fast.
Between 75 and 80 KIAS for lift off looking at the data. As best I can tell
from the data i touched down at about 60 knots. I was overcontrolling it a
bit, but it felt solid and responsive all the way to impact, I mean
touchdown. I need to tuft the wing root fairings and the bottom of the
elevator when I have a chase plane and see if there is separation at high
AOA.
Scott
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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: Chase Plane |
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I hear you... My dad used to do airshows in the 70s and 80s with a group of T-6's and had a lot of formation time. I learned a lot from him. When I say 'chase plane' I'm thinking of something piloted by one of the professional test pilots I used to work with out at Scaled Composites. I had the option of a chase plane for my first flight and elected not to use it.
Scott
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From: bakerocb(at)cox.net <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: Chase Plane
To: "KIS-LIST, MATRONICS" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>, sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 12:41 PM
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6/20/2010
Hello Scott, You wrote: "...... when I have a chase plane......"
I have many flight hours instructing formation flight, and quite a few hours flying formation in air shows and chasing newbie pilots in single seat aircraft.
Any time I read the words: "formation flying", "chase plane", "air to air photography" or the like my warning flags start fluttering rapidly in the breeze. Here are two of the accidents that come floating by in that breeze:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20060209X00189&key=1
http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/XB-70_crash_site.htm
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge."
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Hi Larry,
I'm not sure exaclty what speed I lifted off at, but it was pretty fast. Between 75 and 80 KIAS for lift off looking at the data.� As best I can tell from the data i touched down at about 60 knots. I was overcontrolling it a bit, but it felt solid and responsive all the way to impact, I mean touchdown. I need to tuft the wing root fairings and the bottom of the elevator when I have a chase plane and see if there ihe onics.com/Navigator?KIS-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navisp; - MATRONICS WEB FObsp; A href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www=======================
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bakerocb
Joined: 15 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: Chase Plane |
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6/20/2010
Hello Scott, You wrote: "I had the option of a chase plane for my first
flight and elected not to use it."
Good move.
I made another attempt to create a viewable copy of the Julian Bone KIS TR-1
airflow tuft testing DVD tonight and I think that I have succeeded. If you
will email me your snail mail address I will mail that copy to you.
If you have a problem viewing it -- I used Windows Media viewer -- email me
and if needed we'll get together by phone and see if we can not make it
viewable to you.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:52 am Post subject: Chase Plane |
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Hi OC,
A copy of that DVD would be great...
Scott Stearns
343 Paseo Sabanero
Camarillo, CA 93012
Thanks,
Scott
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From: bakerocb(at)cox.net <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Chase Plane
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com, sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 7:02 PM
--> KIS-List message posted by: <bakerocb(at)cox.net (bakerocb(at)cox.net)>
6/20/2010
Hello Scott, You wrote: "I had the option of a chase plane for my first flight and elected not to use it."
Good move.
I made another attempt to create a viewable copy of the Julian Bone KIS TR-1 airflow tuft testing DVD tonight and I think that I have succeeded. If you will email me your snail mail address I will mail that copy to you.
If you have a problem viewing it -- I used Windows Media viewer -- email me and if needed we'll get together by phone and see if we can not make it viewable to you.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge."
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