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beauford
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 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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Kolbers and Kolbettes:
Fer what it’s worth, beg to report that the FAA turnaround on the E-LSA registration renewal fer the Kleenex Kolb was
23 days door-to-door. Better than expected… five bucks, five years…
Worth what ye paid fer it…
Beauford
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Brandon, FL
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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I just changed the address on my airplane with the FAA about 8 months ago and it appears they want me to renew it again and pay this time. I would really like to change registration providers or just say no but.... They say they need us to renew our registration to better keep track what planes are still flying. Seems like they could check with the state aviation people. I register my airplane with the state EVERY YEAR. Are they going to require all automobiles to register with the Feds?
I'm in Florida now for the winter without my airplane. I'm planning to rent something to fill my winter flying needs. Let me know when when you Florida guys are flying some where I might just show up in some non Kolb.
Rick Neilsen
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Beauford <beauford173(at)verizon.net (beauford173(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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Kolbers and Kolbettes:
Fer what it’s worth, beg to report that the FAA turnaround on the E-LSA registration renewal fer the Kleenex Kolb was
23 days door-to-door. Better than expected… five bucks, five years…
Worth what ye paid fer it…
Beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: Re: Okla City Turnaround |
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Rick,
Hush, please. I don't want our state government in Albany to hear you.
New York, the most taxed and regulated state in the union (I believe) does not have a state registration for aircraft. Nor do we have what was called in Georgia (when I lived there) an annual Ad Valorem tax on stuff you own. I'd like to keep it that way. Our property taxes and sales taxes make up for this oversight in Albany.
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rickofudall
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:08 am Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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Thom, You're lucky. Kansas has an annual tax and they watch the aircraft
registration data base. My trike and Kolb cost me almost $400 a year, and
that was after I dickered the assessment down. When the original bill came,
it was over $1500.
Rick
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Rick,
Hush, please. I don't want our state government in Albany to hear you.
New York, the most taxed and regulated state in the union (I believe) does
not have a state registration for aircraft. Nor do we have what was called
in Georgia (when I lived there) an annual Ad Valorem tax on stuff you own
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Okla City Turnaround |
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Rick,
They watch the FAA registration database like a hawk and levy 8.75% sales tax when a new New York address registration shows up. But no annual tax like in many states. In Georgia I paid on average about $300/yr for each car I owned. I never owned an aircraft when I lived there so don't know what that would have cost.
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Dana
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:37 am Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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At 10:05 AM 11/5/2010, Richard Girard wrote:
| Quote: | | Thom, You're lucky. Kansas has an annual tax and they watch the aircraft registration data base. My trike and Kolb cost me almost $400 a year, and that was after I dickered the assessment down. When the original bill came, it was over $1500. |
Here in Connecticut aircraft used to be subject to a yearly "personal property tax", which was payable to the town, not the state. That was eliminated, and now there's a state aircraft registration sticker required... which you buy from the town clerk, and the town keeps the money. Comes to the same thing.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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Thom, You're lucky. Kansas has an annual tax and they watch the aircraft registration data base. My trike and Kolb cost me almost $400 a year, and that was after I dickered the assessmenit down. When the original bill came, it was over $1500.
Rick
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feel lucky they only wanted 1500.00
i was told that for my mkiii the "fair market value of aircraft on registration date" was $530,114.11,,,, and at 6% tax rate,,, the tax was $31,806.85 should have told them i would sell it to them for 1/2 the fair market value... they could resale it for the full value, or even discount it a bit so it would sell faster... and they could keep the diference to cover the tax, and call the rest a donation from me to the county.
i was also told that the tax wan't due till the aircraft was compleated... i told them that it was a work in progress and i did not expect to be done for 15 to 20 years.... that one they did not accept,,, made me pay the taxes as of the day it first commited flight.
boyd young
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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DanaYou're might on about the current tax procedure.
Years ago, every airport near the state border would be near-empty the first week in Oct -- if you were in CT on Oct 1, you got taxed. Otherwise not.
The tax assessor in one town was seen walking the aircraft line with Trade-A-Plane in one hand and a clipboard in t'other.
"This one is a Cessna? Here's one in this here-now yellow newspaper that costs $99,000. Guess that's what all Cessnas cost".
Luckily no longer the case. I think.
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| Quote: | At 10:05 AM 11/5/2010, Richard Girard wrote:
| Quote: | | Thom, You're lucky. Kansas has an annual tax and they watch the aircraft registration data base. My trike and Kolb cost me almost $400 a year, and that was after I dickered the assessment down. When the original bill came, it was over $1500. |
Here in Connecticut aircraft used to be subject to a yearly "personal property tax", which was payable to the town, not the state. That was eliminated, and now there's a state aircraft registration sticker required... which you buy from the town clerk, and the town keeps the money. Comes to the same thing.
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Dana
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: Okla City Turnaround |
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At 09:22 PM 11/5/2010, russ kinne wrote:
| Quote: | You're might on about the current tax procedure.
Years ago, every airport near the state border would be near-empty the first week in Oct -- if you were in CT on Oct 1, you got taxed. Otherwise not.
The tax assessor in one town was seen walking the aircraft line with Trade-A-Plane in one hand and a clipboard in t'other.
"This one is a Cessna? Here's one in this here-now yellow newspaper that costs $99,000. Guess that's what all Cessnas cost".
Luckily no longer the case. I think. |
Now, the airport owner or manager sends a list to the town clerk, and the town clerk sends out registration forms to the owners. The registration fee depends on gross weight. Ultralights seem to be exempt.
Dana
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