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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: Firesleeving

Folks,



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		  From what I've seen, most folks are not firesleeving their oil cooler feed/return/pressure lines nor their fuel pressure line which I'm OK with.


	


Fuel feed/return lines I think need to be firesleeved.....



I'm having a problem determining what size firesleeve to use.  The ACS website has a table for their firesleeve parts which does not list the 303 hose that we're supposed to use.



I'm getting ready to buy the stuff to build my fuel hoses - including the firesleeving.  I'll be building an assembly that includes a pair of hoses and a fuel flow meter - I'm guessing that I'll need a larger chunk of firesleeve to go over the flow meter.



Can anyone tell me what the correct size of Firesleeving is for a 303-4, 303-6, and Flowscan 201 fuel flow meter?



Thanks,

Ralph

recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:05 am Post subject: Firesleeving

Thanks to Ross for the info....



Jerry's correct and the size they recommend for the flowmeter/transducer is -24 which ACS does not carry.



Anyone got a foot of -24 kicking around?



Either I was looking at the wrong page (likely) or ACS updated their website......



Ralph



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alexpeterson(at)earthlink
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: Firesleeving

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 <recapen(at)earthlink.net>

 

 Thanks to Ross for the info....

 

 Jerry's correct and the size they recommend for the 

 flowmeter/transducer is -24 which ACS does not carry.

 

 Anyone got a foot of -24 kicking around?

 

 Either I was looking at the wrong page (likely) or ACS 

 updated their website......

 

 Ralph


	


I have wrapped a couple things with "sheets" of firesleeve, made by cutting

some -10 open, and treating the raw edges with red RTV.  I wrap them using

safety wire.  Maybe not as good as a complete sleeve, but keeps the general

heat down and would provide some protection in a fire.



Alex Peterson

RV6-A N66AP 752 hours (almost done with the Lightspeed install)

Maple Grove, MN

dwight(at)openweave.org
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: Firesleeving

On Tue May  2 22:47:46 2006, Ross Scroggs wrote :

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		  Ralph,

   According to the ACS catalog, page 122, the 303-4 hose uses AE102-9, the 

303-6 uses

AE102-12.  Both firesleeve's use the 900591B-2C clamp.

  Don't think I've ever seen firesleeve on a flow meter/transducer.


	


If you mount it in the location recommended by Don at Airflow Performance

it hangs down between the cylinders just prior to the purge valve. In that

location the recommendation is to wrap it in firesleeve just like you would

any other fuel line.



  -- Dwight



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: Firesleeving

Dwight,



My application is different in that I am using a SamJames plenum.  AFP provided me with a 'laydown' purge valve which brings the fuel in from either in front of the #1 cylinder (I think it's #1 - regardless it's the cylinder forward of the purge valve) or routed around and through the back of the plenum/baffle.  I'm gonna try to use -24 firesleeve and -3C clamps as I have seen documented elsewhere.



Just gotta find a chunk of -24 firesleeve or roll my own.....



Thanks,

Ralph



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dwight(at)openweave.org
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: Firesleeving

On Wed May  3 09:07:42 2006, Ralph E. Capen wrote :

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		  Dwight,



My application is different in that I am using a SamJames plenum.  AFP provided me with a 'laydown' purge valve which brings the fuel in from either in front of the #1 cylinder (I think it's #1 - regardless it's the cylinder forward of the purge valve) or routed around and through the back of the plenum/baffle.  I'm gonna try to use -24 firesleeve and -3C clamps as I have seen documented elsewhere.



Just gotta find a chunk of -24 firesleeve or roll my own.....


	


Sounds like you have your answer, then. Best of luck with it! It sounds

like the suggestion to slice some larger firesleeve and wrap it (after

treating the cut edges) makes for a good work-around to not having the

exact right size. I'll be saving that thought for when I have to deal

with the same problem. 



  -- Dwight



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dsvs(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: Firesleeving

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>

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 Dwight,

 


	


-24 firesleeve is available from Sacramento Sky Ranch





[quote] My application is different in that I am using a SamJames plenum.  AFP provided 

 me with a 'laydown' purge valve which brings the fuel in from either in front of 

 the #1 cylinder (I think it's #1 - regardless it's the cylinder forward of the 

 purge valve) or routed around and through the back of the plenum/baffle.  I'm 

 gonna try to use -24 firesleeve and -3C clamps as I have seen documented 

 elsewhere.

 

 Just gotta find a chunk of -24 firesleeve or roll my own.....

 

 Thanks,

 Ralph

 

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retasker(at)optonline.net
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: Firesleeving

Go to page 737 on http://www.mcmaster.com/ (type "737" in the search 

window) or look up "Silicone-Coated Fiberglass Sleeving",  Half way down 

the page is "standard" grade or "aerospace" grade firesleeving from 1/4" 

to 4" diameter (3" in aerospace grade).  Available in increments of 1 

foot.up to 50 ft. continuous (just in case you have a really loooong 

fuel line).  



Dick Tasker



Ralph E. Capen wrote:



[quote]



Dwight,



My application is different in that I am using a SamJames plenum.  AFP provided me with a 'laydown' purge valve which brings the fuel in from either in front of the #1 cylinder (I think it's #1 - regardless it's the cylinder forward of the purge valve) or routed around and through the back of the plenum/baffle.  I'm gonna try to use -24 firesleeve and -3C clamps as I have seen documented elsewhere.



Just gotta find a chunk of -24 firesleeve or roll my own.....



Thanks,

Ralph



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chaztuna(at)adelphia.net
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Firesleeving

Ralph,

  I wouldn't waste money buying "special" fire sleeve for the 

transducer. Take some fire sleeve, cut a a 8" long length & slit it 

lengthwise. Wrap it around the transducer, seal it and clamp it with 

the appropriate clamps.

Charlie Kuss

[quote]



Thanks to Ross for the info....



Jerry's correct and the size they recommend for the 

flowmeter/transducer is -24 which ACS does not carry.



Anyone got a foot of -24 kicking around?



Either I was looking at the wrong page (likely) or ACS updated their 

website......



Ralph



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bill(at)vondane.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Firesleeving

Is anyone firesleeving the aluminum lines on the engine side of the 

firewall?



-Bill



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walter(at)tondu.com
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: Firesleeving

On 05/03  9:08, Bill VonDane wrote:



 > Is anyone firesleeving the aluminum lines on the engine side of the 

 > firewall?

 

Heck, I even firesleeve my electrical runs, and my throttle, prop

and mixture cables firewall forward.  It may be overkill but then again

it may be underkill. 

-- 

Walter Tondu

http://www.rv7-a.com

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lhelming(at)sigecom.net
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: Firesleeving

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Bob Barrow

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 29

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: Firesleeving

Hi there Walter, you're setting a good example. I note that many RV builders 

do not firesleeve the oil lines between the engine and the oil 

cooler...that's just slack (or uneducated) ...and dangerous.



You said you firesleeved everything....but I'll bet you didn't....I'll bet 

you didn't firesleeve the aluminium oil lines that run from the cylinder 

heads back to the sump. I've never seen those done.



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On 05/03  9:08, Bill VonDane wrote:



  > Is anyone firesleeving the aluminum lines on the engine side of the

  > firewall?



Heck, I even firesleeve my electrical runs, and my throttle, prop

and mixture cables firewall forward.  It may be overkill but then again

it may be underkill. 


	


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walter(at)tondu.com
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: Firesleeving

On 05/06 12:37, Bob Barrow wrote:



 > Hi there Walter, you're setting a good example. I note that many RV builders 

 > do not firesleeve the oil lines between the engine and the oil 

 > cooler...that's just slack (or uneducated) ...and dangerous.

 > 

 > You said you firesleeved everything....but I'll bet you didn't....I'll bet 

 > you didn't firesleeve the aluminium oil lines that run from the cylinder 

 > heads back to the sump. I've never seen those done.



Your right, I didn't firesleeve those lines.  I don't have the specs

handy on those lines but if memory serves me those are some beefy little

suckers.  I'll check tomorrow to what they are exactly.  I'm thinking

that they probably really don't need the added protection, but I may

be wrong...



Good catch.

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Walter Tondu

http://www.rv7-a.com

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