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brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: I love the pelican |
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are ther any pelicans in michigan?I almost flew one in Florida several years ago how many people are on the list ? I havent herd much latley
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
To: dralle(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:05:36 AM
Subject: Official Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
--> Pelican-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Pelican-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Pelican-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pelican-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pelican-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Pelican-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Pelican-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Pelican-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.co
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: I love the pelican |
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The list has been very quiet, not many Pelicans in the U.S. I fly one in TX, great airplane.
| Quote: | Gary
San Antonio, TX
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On 2/2/2011 7:45 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: [quote]
are ther any pelicans in michigan?I almost flew one in Florida several years ago how many people are on the list ? I havent herd much latley
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> (dralle(at)matronics.com)
To: dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:05:36 AM
Subject: Official Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
--> Pelican-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Pelican-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Pelican-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pelican-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pelican-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Pelican-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Pelican-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Pelican-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: I love the pelican |
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I know a guy in TX that flys a corsairo am fib. I saw the pelican that hit the ditch at sun fun 10 + years ago he had a volintere with him the pilot died . he was a nice guy just signed off in it. he ran it off the end of the runway on take of .
Is it true kolb people imported that plane for a while? i alwase wondered who made it . I fly a kit fox how many pelicans do you think are in the US? mal
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com>
To: pelican-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 8:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: I love the pelican
The list has been very quiet, not many Pelicans in the U.S. I fly one in TX, great airplane.
| Quote: | Gary
San Antonio, TX
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On 2/2/2011 7:45 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: [quote]
are ther any pelicans in michigan?I almost flew one in Florida several years ago how many people are on the list ? I havent herd much latley
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> (dralle(at)matronics.com)
To: dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:05:36 AM
Subject: Pelican-List: Official Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
--> Pelican-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Pelican-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Pelican-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pelican-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pelican-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Pelican-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Pelican-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Pelican-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:37 am Post subject: I love the pelican |
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Yes, Kolb was the U.S. distributor for Ultravia Aero International (the Canadian designers) for the Sport model. Kolb had the plane slightly redesigned in Brazil(?). The original Pelican is now handled by Ballard (below). I think there may be about 10 Pelican PL's and maybe the same number of previous versions (smaller fuselage with fabric wings and tail).
http://ballardsportaircrafts.com/pages/bsa_home_2008.html
Ballard Sport Aircraft Ltd.
2696 du Pimbina,
Sherbrooke, Qc
Canada J1R 0G3
Tél: 819 563-5847
Fax: 819 829-5677
Jim Pollard
Merlin Ont[/code]
On 2/5/2011 8:59 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: [quote] I know a guy in TX that flys a corsairo am fib. I saw the pelican that hit the ditch at sun fun 10 + years ago he had a volintere with him the pilot died . he was a nice guy just signed off in it. he ran it off the end of the runway on take of .
Is it true kolb people imported that plane for a while? i alwase wondered who made it . I fly a kit fox how many pelicans do you think are in the US? mal
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> (gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com)
To: pelican-list(at)matronics.com (pelican-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 8:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: I love the pelican
The list has been very quiet, not many Pelicans in the U.S. I fly one in TX, great airplane.
| Quote: | Gary
San Antonio, TX
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On 2/2/2011 7:45 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: | Quote: |
are ther any pelicans in michigan?I almost flew one in Florida several years ago how many people are on the list ? I havent herd much latley
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> (dralle(at)matronics.com)
To: dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:05:36 AM
Subject: Official Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
--> Pelican-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Pelican-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Pelican-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pelican-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pelican-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Pelican-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Pelican-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Pelican-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
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brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: I love the pelican |
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We had an interesting discussion on linkedin this weekend. All about flight
instruction and the idea of turning an experimental into a club plane so an
instructor could legally use it to teach the owners to fly. This theory is
viable and there is FAA approval to do this.
What I think would really jump start the process is a pre-developed general
format. One that would be easy for people to follow in developing their
own club and fractional ownership; not much different than the downloads a
person can buy to write their own will or start a non profit 401c3 corporation.
These always contain several disclaimers and liability waivers just like the
ones we used in the old days to teach ultralight flying.
This would help the ultralight pilot and sport pilot want-to-be, as well as the
instructor.
The idea of teaching someone to fly in a $14,000 plane with a 582 is not that
far fetched. We all know people that have. It seemes like a better option than
the $60,000 to $100,000 planes everyone thinks they currently need . When
a student becomes a licensed pilot they can transition up.
What this sport needs now is for people to stop focusing on the problem and
develope a solution. The ultralight trainer was so successful that it was
turned into a sport pilot plane; and that took 20 years. Even a 2 place Kolb
classic could qualify.
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com>
To: pelican-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 11:31:27 AM
Subject: Re: Pelican-List: I love the pelican
Yes, Kolb was the U.S. distributor for Ultravia Aero International (the Canadian designers) for the Sport model. Kolb had the plane slightly redesigned in Brazil(?). The original Pelican is now handled by Ballard (below). I think there may be about 10 Pelican PL's and maybe the same number of previous versions (smaller fuselage with fabric wings and tail).
http://ballardsportaircrafts.com/pages/bsa_home_2008.html
Ballard Sport Aircraft Ltd.
2696 du Pimbina,
Sherbrooke, Qc
Canada J1R 0G3
Tél: 819 563-5847
Fax: 819 829-5677
Jim Pollard
Merlin Ont[/code]
On 2/5/2011 8:59 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: [quote] I know a guy in TX that flys a corsairo am fib. I saw the pelican that hit the ditch at sun fun 10 + years ago he had a volintere with him the pilot died . he was a nice guy just signed off in it. he ran it off the end of the runway on take of .
Is it true kolb people imported that plane for a while? i alwase wondered who made it . I fly a kit fox how many pelicans do you think are in the US? mal
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> (gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com)
To: pelican-list(at)matronics.com (pelican-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 8:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: I love the pelican
The list has been very quiet, not many Pelicans in the U.S. I fly one in TX, great airplane.
| Quote: | Gary
San Antonio, TX
|
On 2/2/2011 7:45 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: | Quote: |
are ther any pelicans in michigan?I almost flew one in Florida several years ago how many people are on the list ? I havent herd much latley
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> (dralle(at)matronics.com)
To: dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:05:36 AM
Subject: Official Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
--> Pelican-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Pelican-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Pelican-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pelican-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
Pelican-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pelican-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Pelican-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Pelican-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Pelican-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
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