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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:06 am    Post subject: Vaccum pad alternator Reply with quote

Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:51 am    Post subject: Vaccum pad alternator Reply with quote

William,

I have an alternator mounted to the vacuum pad. It is supposed to be rated around 40 amps but in this installation it probably is rpm limited to around 25 amps. Nothing to sneeze at considering the Rotax alternator is rated at 15 amps and you don't want to run it at that output for very long. Consequently, I use the vacuum pad alternator as my primary electrical source for the aircraft. Only 25 hours on it so far, but it as performed flawlessly.
You can see pictures on my Europa Owners gallery. Some overall pics of the package under "Mods and other hardware things -- 2nd Alternator Kit." This kit was purchased from Flight Crafters (Bob & Russ) about a year after I received the Europa Kit and I don't believe they sell these any more.
Looking at the specs for the B&C unit, I don't see why it wouldn't work just as well as long as you have the accessory drive gear on your gearbox. I have used great quantities of B&C equipment on Little Toot Sport Biplanes I have helped build in the past and I plan to use a lot of their equipment on the Toot I am presently building for myself.
I'll be happy to dig up or take pictures of my installation if you would like.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Vaccum pad alternator Reply with quote

On 06/16/2011 03:02 PM, William Daniell wrote:
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Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?

I have one. If you go that route, I would recommend you to split your
battery into two smaller ones, so you have two totally independent
electrical systems. This gives total redundancy, if you fry one system
you still have the other. Logically you have to distribute your
appliances wisely over the two independent buses to get the most out of
this redundancy.

Keep in mind though that this alternator on the Rotax starts generating
power only at 2500 rpm or above. below that it consumes 4 amps for the
field but doesn't produce anything in return. It really starts to come
alive at 3000 rpm or more.

Make sure to order the short version of this alternator. And note that
you can't use the Rotax factory shroud in combination with this alternator.

Frans


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Vaccum pad alternator Reply with quote

Thanks Bob

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William,


I have an alternator mounted to the vacuum pad. It is supposed to be rated around 40 amps but in this installation it probably is rpm limited to around 25 amps. Nothing to sneeze at considering the Rotax alternator is rated at 15 amps and you don't want to run it at that output for very long. Consequently, I use the vacuum pad alternator as my primary electrical source for the aircraft. Only 25 hours on it so far, but it as performed flawlessly.



You can see pictures on my Europa Owners gallery. Some overall pics of the package under "Mods and other hardware things -- 2nd Alternator Kit." This kit was purchased from Flight Crafters (Bob & Russ) about a year after I received the Europa Kit and I don't believe they sell these any more.



Looking at the specs for the B&C unit, I don't see why it wouldn't work just as well as long as you have the accessory drive gear on your gearbox. I have used great quantities of B&C equipment on Little Toot Sport Biplanes I have helped build in the past and I plan to use a lot of their equipment on the Toot I am presently building for myself.



I'll be happy to dig up or take pictures of my installation if you would like.



Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger

Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop

http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232

http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046

Europa Flying!

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX 76208

Home: 940-497-2123

Cel: 817-992-1117






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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Vaccum pad alternator Reply with quote

Frans

Thank you

Will

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 am    Post subject: Vaccum pad alternator Reply with quote

Hi Will" Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?"Like Frans mentioned you want the short version, the SD20S.Here's a few pics:http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=28318Ron Parigoris [quote][b]

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