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Ed Godfrey



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Could anyone tell me where to get a copy of Les' document? I am at that
stage and would like to do the research necessary. Thanks.

Ed Godfrey
40717

On 4/9/2012 7:48 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He trimmed
off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same 1/4 inch
with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.

I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that if
I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to
actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the
gutter and the door would be too large.

His doc showed the older green canopy instead of the pink. Is there a
difference there? Did others using the McMaster seals trim off the
full radius on the gutter and have it work with the 3/8 inch bulb?

Thanks,

-Sean #40303 (very dim light at the end of the tunnel)



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Sent to your email...

-Sean #40303

On 6/4/12 1:59 PM, egodfrey(at)ameritech.net wrote:
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<egodfrey(at)ameritech.net>

Could anyone tell me where to get a copy of Les' document? I am at
that stage and would like to do the research necessary. Thanks.

Ed Godfrey
40717

On 4/9/2012 7:48 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
>
> I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He
> trimmed off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same
> 1/4 inch with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.
>
> I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that
> if I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to
> actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the
> gutter and the door would be too large.
>
> His doc showed the older green canopy instead of the pink. Is there
> a difference there? Did others using the McMaster seals trim off the
> full radius on the gutter and have it work with the 3/8 inch bulb?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Sean #40303 (very dim light at the end of the tunnel)
>



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Ed and colleagues, this is a compilation of door seal installation guidelines provided by various builders.

I hope that it helps you too.

Warm regards

Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia

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I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He trimmed off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same 1/4 inch with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.

I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that if I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the gutter and the door would be too large.

His doc showed the older green canopy instead of the pink. Is there a difference there? Did others using the McMaster seals trim off the full radius on the gutter and have it work with the 3/8 inch bulb?

Thanks,

-Sean #40303 (very dim light at the end of the tunnel)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Ed

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if you didn't get it.

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On 6/4/2012 1:59 PM, egodfrey(at)ameritech.net wrote:
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<egodfrey(at)ameritech.net>

Could anyone tell me where to get a copy of Les' document? I am at
that stage and would like to do the research necessary. Thanks.

Ed Godfrey
40717

On 4/9/2012 7:48 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
>
> I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He
> trimmed off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same
> 1/4 inch with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.
>
> I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that
> if I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to
> actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the
> gutter and the door would be too large.
>
> His doc showed the older green canopy instead of the pink. Is there
> a difference there? Did others using the McMaster seals trim off the
> full radius on the gutter and have it work with the 3/8 inch bulb?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Sean #40303 (very dim light at the end of the tunnel)
>




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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

After much consideration, I've decided that on my pink canopy I don't choose to remove that full radius, because of the implications to reducing strength of the door post. I also did not want to do the huge amount of build up and sanding that would be required to make the door sill uniform enough for an even sealing edge with the door. So I will try the seal that Alex D sells.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM, egodfrey(at)ameritech.net (egodfrey(at)ameritech.net) <egodfrey(at)ameritech.net (egodfrey(at)ameritech.net)> wrote:
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Could anyone tell me where to get a copy of Les' document? I am at that stage and would like to do the research necessary. Thanks.

Ed Godfrey
40717

On 4/9/2012 7:48 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)>

I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He trimmed off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same 1/4 inch with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.

I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that if I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the gutter and the door would be too large.






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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

This is what I used from McMaster. Easy on and seals well. I put them on the door, not the frame. I also used some semi ridged foam to fill in the door hinge recess so that this seal just goes over it around the perimeter of the door.

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93085K11
Adhesive Back Foam Rubber Bulb Seal, 3/8" Overall Width, 7/16" Overall Height, 3/16" ID, 20' L
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After much consideration, I've decided that on my pink canopy I don't choose to remove that full radius, because of the implications to reducing strength of the door post. I also did not want to do the huge amount of build up and sanding that would be required to make the door sill uniform enough for an even sealing edge with the door. So I will try the seal that Alex D sells.
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Could anyone tell me where to get a copy of Les' document? I am at that stage and would like to do the research necessary. Thanks.

Ed Godfrey
40717

On 4/9/2012 7:48 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)>

I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He trimmed off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same 1/4 inch with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.

I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that if I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the gutter and the door would be too large.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

[quote="Kelly McMullen"]After much consideration, I've decided that on my pink canopy I don't choose to remove that full radius, because of the implications to reducing strength of the door post. I also did not want to do the huge amount of build up and sanding that would be required to make the door sill uniform enough for an even sealing edge with the door. So I will try the seal that Alex D sells.

Kelly,

Another option is a method that I borrowed from Dave Saylor IIRC.
It uses a EDPM rectangular seal 1/8" x 1/2" and mounts on the inner surface of the door. It allows you to leave a significant portion of the gutter and is easy to fit. With the doors closed, trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap between the door surface and the edge of the gutter; install seal, done.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

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>trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap<<

It turns out you don't even need 1/8".  The seals compress to less than 1/16.  I use a couple layers to build up any areas that are more than 1/8, or you can use thicker material.

I posted a couple pictures to the list on 10/5/09.

Dave Saylor
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[quote="Kelly McMullen"]After much consideration, I've decided that on my pink canopy I don't choose to remove that full radius, because of the implications to reducing strength of the door post. I also did not want to do the huge amount of build up and sanding that would be required to make the door sill uniform enough for an even sealing edge with the door. So I will try the seal that Alex D sells.
>

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Kelly,

Another option is a method that I borrowed from Dave Saylor IIRC.
It uses a EDPM rectangular seal 1/8" x 1/2" and mounts on the inner surface of the door. It allows you to leave a significant portion of the gutter and is easy to fit. With the doors closed, trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap between the door surface and the edge of the gutter; install seal, done.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

I never did the build-up for the mcmaster seal, so it is constantly falling off. In retrospect, i wish i had used a simple foam seal. It would have been far far simpler and easier to maintain than either the mcmaster seal or the stock seal.

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On 6/4/2012 9:09 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: [quote]>>trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap<<

It turns out you don't even need 1/8".  The seals compress to less than 1/16.  I use a couple layers to build up any areas that are more than 1/8, or you can use thicker material.

I posted a couple pictures to the list on 10/5/09.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

I cannot hope for a better seal and door fit on my -10 partially due to the McMaster Carr door seal. Extremely happy we used it. Like many items on the build you just have to put one foot in front of the other and one day you are flying. As far as effort we built a simple guide that we attached to pneumatic grinder and had each door precisely trimmed in 15 minutes.

Robin

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
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I never did the build-up for the mcmaster seal, so it is constantly falling off. In retrospect, i wish i had used a simple foam seal. It would have been far far simpler and easier to maintain than either the mcmaster seal or the stock seal.

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On 6/4/2012 9:09 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
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>trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap<<

It turns out you don't even need 1/8". The seals compress to less than 1/16. I use a couple layers to build up any areas that are more than 1/8, or you can use thicker material.

I posted a couple pictures to the list on 10/5/09.

Dave Saylor
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Ditto for me, thanks to Robin. I copied the grinder tool and it made the job a lot easier. If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't change a thing with the door seal. Definitely quieter than the vans seal possibly due to the hinge covers and consistent pressure around the door.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Just to ask a question, since I am not at the stage installing sun
visors, would it be possible to glass in a "block" that the visor could
be mounted to? That way, you could screw the mount into the block and
not to the cabin top. Any problems with this method that anyone can
throw a flag on the idea?

Ed Godfrey
40717

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We each build our own airplanes and make our own decisions – please don’t take this as criticism just food for thought. I had a conversation with Ken K. regarding drilling holes in the gutter in order to add sun visors the cabin top, specifically the cabin top posts. Ken indicated that one of the challenges in the design was getting the cabin top to pass the inverted drop test. He was visibly uncomfortable with the idea of drilling any holes in the gutter to mount visors, for those who have had conversations with Ken K. in person you may know the wince he gives.

By removing the entire inside radius of the gutter in order to install the McMaster Carr style seal you are significantly changing the section modulus of the cabin top post and COULD be significantly increasing the likelihood of a cabin top failure in a roll over type accident. Just something to consider as you make what may seem to be a harmless improvement to the design.

Again, these are your decisions – I am only trying to provide an alternate perspective to the decision.

Thanks – Jason

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

That is what I wanted to do originally. But there just isn't that much space to work with, so they kinda find their own spot.

If you don't have an overhead center console, you might have a few more inches to work with, but not much. The curve of the door frame pretty much dictates where they go.

On that topic, I would wait on determining the visors position until the the panel can be installed temporarily and the seats (with foam) adjusted so they're comfortable. Once you're comfortable in the cockpit, then figure out where the visors go. It's pretty easy to put them directly in the line of vision if you don't go through the prep work to put the cockpit together.

Phil
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Just to ask a question, since I am not at the stage installing sun visors, would it be possible to glass in a "block" that the visor could be mounted to? That way, you could screw the mount into the block and not to the cabin top. Any problems with this method that anyone can throw a flag on the idea?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

15 minutes? I'd like to see a pic of this guide. It could cut a couple
hours off my total build time on my next RV-10! Smile

On 6/5/12 5:19 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
Quote:

I cannot hope for a better seal and door fit on my -10 partially due
to the McMaster Carr door seal. Extremely happy we used it. Like many
items on the build you just have to put one foot in front of the other
and one day you are flying. As far as effort we built a simple guide
that we attached to pneumatic grinder and had each door precisely
trimmed in 15 minutes.

Robin

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*Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:27 AM
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*Subject:* Re: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals

I never did the build-up for the mcmaster seal, so it is constantly
falling off. In retrospect, i wish i had used a simple foam seal. It
would have been far far simpler and easier to maintain than either the
mcmaster seal or the stock seal.

Jae
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On 6/4/2012 9:09 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:

>>trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap<<

It turns out you don't even need 1/8". The seals compress to less
than 1/16. I use a couple layers to build up any areas that are more
than 1/8, or you can use thicker material.

I posted a couple pictures to the list on 10/5/09.

Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 <tel:831-750-0284> CL

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Photos attached. Don't think I haven't thought about building another -10 because I already have this guide.

Robin

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:53 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

I agree 100% with Robin. Mcmaster seals
Are the best. The extra effort to put fit them
Correctly will make them easy to install
Will not come off and are easy to replace if
Ever needed. They also look great and make
The door opening look more finished
Geoff combs

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I cannot hope for a better seal and door fit on my -10 partially due to the McMaster Carr door seal. Extremely happy we used it. Like many items on the build you just have to put one foot in front of the other and one day you are flying. As far as effort we built a simple guide that we attached to pneumatic grinder and had each door precisely trimmed in 15 minutes.

Robin

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
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I never did the build-up for the mcmaster seal, so it is constantly falling off. In retrospect, i wish i had used a simple foam seal. It would have been far far simpler and easier to maintain than either the mcmaster seal or the stock seal.

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>trim the gutter so there is 1/8" gap<<

It turns out you don't even need 1/8". The seals compress to less than 1/16. I use a couple layers to build up any areas that are more than 1/8, or you can use thicker material.

I posted a couple pictures to the list on 10/5/09.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:40 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Another pic of a copy I made.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

So you guys did initial trimming with a cutoff wheel and then the grinder metal guide runs along the outside door edge with the tool doing the final trimming the remaining gutter?

Bob

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[quote] Another pic of a copy I made.



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

That's basically what I did. I used a belt sander on a lot of the cabin. I
also used a diamond cut off wheel and the grinder tool shown. This made a
consistent 1/4 or 3/16 lip for the seal to attach to. You can buy the lip
size in 3/16 or 1/4.

Personally I have a 1/4 reveal around the whole door and I feel like this is
the optimal gap for the 3/8 bulb.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:25 am    Post subject: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals Reply with quote

Hi Carl,
Can you show us photo of your install?
John Maccallum
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On 05/06/2012, at 11:39, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)> wrote:

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This is what I used from McMaster. Easy on and seals well. I put them on the door, not the frame. I also used some semi ridged foam to fill in the door hinge recess so that this seal just goes over it around the perimeter of the door.

1
93085K11
Adhesive Back Foam Rubber Bulb Seal, 3/8" Overall Width, 7/16" Overall Height, 3/16" ID, 20' L
20
feet
in the morning
0.54
per foot
10.80
You need 30 feet.
Carl
RV-10 (6 hours)
RV-8A (800 hours)

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After much consideration, I've decided that on my pink canopy I don't choose to remove that full radius, because of the implications to reducing strength of the door post. I also did not want to do the huge amount of build up and sanding that would be required to make the door sill uniform enough for an even sealing edge with the door. So I will try the seal that Alex D sells.
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM, egodfrey(at)ameritech.net (egodfrey(at)ameritech.net) <egodfrey(at)ameritech.net (egodfrey(at)ameritech.net)> wrote:
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Could anyone tell me where to get a copy of Les' document? I am at that stage and would like to do the research necessary. Thanks.

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I've read Les' document on using McMaster Carr door seals. He trimmed off the entire radius on the door gutter. I ordered the same 1/4 inch with 3/8 inch bulb seals he used.

I have yet to trim off the full radius as he did, but it seems that if I do, there will me no way the 3/8 inch bulb will be enough to actually touch and seal against the door. Seems the gap between the gutter and the door would be too large.


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