 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
tdbjork(at)gmail.com
Guest
|
 Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:24 am Post subject: Release Form |
 |
|
Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail. tdbjork(at)gmail.com (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
Thanks in advance,,, Tim
[quote][b]
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Rex Rodebush
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 209
Location: Branson West area, Missouri
|
| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Release Form |
|
|
If you are an EAA member there are several articles on selling you plane / liability protection, etc. on the Homebuilders section at their website.
Rex
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rickofudall
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 1392
Location: Udall, KS, USA
|
| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:38 pm Post subject: Release Form |
|
|
Tim, I'll tell you what the lawyer told me about releases. "No one can sign away the rights of another". Your buyer can sign anything you can create and it won't apply to his wife and kids. Get a recommendation from a lawyer referral group and go pay someone who knows the laws in your state.
Rick Girard
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Tim Bjork <tdbjork(at)gmail.com (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail. tdbjork(at)gmail.com (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
Thanks in advance,,, Tim
| Quote: |
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
|
|
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
[quote][b]
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
_________________
The smallest miracle right in front of you is enough to make you happy.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Richard Pike
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1670
Location: Blountville, Tennessee
|
| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Release Form |
|
|
In addition to whatever release form you get, you could always disassemble it and sell it to him as "Aircraft parts, sold separately, in non-flying condition."
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
_________________
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sspence801(at)sbcglobal.n
Guest
|
| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:24 am Post subject: Release Form |
|
|
Tim:
This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to work on a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
Steve Spence
Former Kolb owner
Auburn Hills, MI
PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE
Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or DEATH. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle:
1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition, recoil start
Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket motor replacement.
Consideration:
Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability release.
Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which is being purchased separately.
Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being purchased has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified parts and materials, that there has not and never will be any certification of "airworthiness" by any government agency or other authority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or any aircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified person is the right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that while the current regulations may not require any certification or training to fly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely essential in order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics different from those of general aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secure the requisite ultra-light specific training prior to attempting any flight with this aircraft. Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express, written or implied. Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller harmless from any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release are contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that no promise, inducement or other agreement, not expressed in this document has been made to the Buyer concerning the condition, flight characteristics or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement contains the entire between the Buyer and Seller.
　
Buyer’s signature_______________________ Seller’s signature_____________________
Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
From: Tim Bjork <tdbjork(at)gmail.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Release Form
Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail. tdbjork(at)gmail.com (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
Thanks in advance,,, Tim
[quote]http://f="http://forums.matronics.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://fo=========
[b]
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
herbgh(at)nctc.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:29 am Post subject: Release Form |
|
|
Good as any...but no form keeps one out of court...and from hiring a lawyer...at that point one has lost...considerable sums...herb
On 05/02/2013 10:24 AM, Stephen Spence wrote:
[quote] Tim:
Â
   This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to work on a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
Â
Steve Spence
Former Kolb owner
Auburn Hills, MI
Â
PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE
Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or DEATH. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle:
1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition, recoil start
Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket motor replacement.
Consideration:
Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability release.
Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which is being purchased separately.
Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being purchased has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified parts and materials, that there has not and never will be any certification of "airworthiness" by any government agency or other authority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or any aircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified person is the right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that while the current regulations may not require any certification or training to fly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely essential in order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics different from those of general aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secure the requisite ultra-light specific training prior to attempting any flight with this aircraft. Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express, written or implied. Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller harmless from any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release are contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that no promise, inducement or other agreement, not expressed in this document has been made to the Buyer concerning the condition, flight characteristics or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement contains the entire between the Buyer and Seller.
　
Buyer’s signature_______________________ Seller’s signature_____________________
Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
From: Tim Bjork <tdbjork(at)gmail.com> (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
Subject: Release Form
Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail. Â tdbjork(at)gmail.com (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
 Thanks in advance,,, TimÂ
[b]
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lcottrell
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or
|
| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:55 am Post subject: Release Form |
|
|
You can chase this until kingdom come and there is no sure way to insure that your butt will not be hanging out. The best bet is to not sell your plane to an asshole. How you determine that is up to you. I have wrecked my plane ( required repair) three times, and I have never complained to the guy that built it once? Get him to sign the damn release  and give him the plane, or just burn it which ever makes you feel better. Larry
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM, herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com (herbgh(at)nctc.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Good as any...but no form keeps one out of court...and from hiring a lawyer...at that point one has lost...considerable sums...herb
On 05/02/2013 10:24 AM, Stephen Spence wrote:
| Quote: | Tim:
Â
   This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to work on a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
Â
Steve Spence
Former Kolb owner
Auburn Hills, MI
Â
PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE
Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or DEATH. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle:
1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition, recoil start
Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket motor replacement.
Consideration:
Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability release.
Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which is being purchased separately.
Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being purchased has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified parts and materials, that there has not and never will be any certification of "airworthiness" by any government agency or other authority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or any aircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified person is the right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that while the current regulations may not require any certification or training to fly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely essential in order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics different from those of general aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secure the requisite ultra-light specific training prior to attempting any flight with this aircraft. Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express, written or implied. Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller harmless from any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release are contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that no promise, inducement or other agreement, not expressed in this document has been made to the Buyer concerning the condition, flight characteristics or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement contains the entire between the Buyer and Seller.
　
Buyer’s signature_______________________ Seller’s signature_____________________
Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
From: Tim Bjork <tdbjork(at)gmail.com> (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
Subject: Release Form
Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail. Â tdbjork(at)gmail.com (tdbjork(at)gmail.com)
 Thanks in advance,,, TimÂ
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
|
|
--
If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.
[quote][b]
| | - The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List |
|
_________________
do not archive |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
