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williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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 Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Rick- I did the same thing months ago. When somebody from EAA called, I explained I wasn't interested in all the new planes they were writing up. I wanted homebuilts, especially 103's, and every tip they could write up. I told them to call me when they changed back to what they were.
Bill Sullivan
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Does any anyone know of a other organization that is more oriented toward the home built people than EAA. I just received another Sport Aviation magazine, and after flipping thorough it I through it in the trash. I really don't care what piper and such are doing. I want to know about the home builders and what there doing and there progress. I want to see builder tips, good and bad. I have said in the pass that I would not resubscribe to EAA and after this subscription runs out, I'm done....
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rickofudall
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Rick, As long as you're a member sign up for "The Experimenter", it's a webzine that's a bit better than SA. Also the webinars, especially Mike Busch's are pretty good. I justify my EAA membership so I can be a member of my local chapter, but I agree with you, SA is just pitiful compared to what it used to be.
Rick Girard
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| Quote: | Rick- I did the same thing months ago. When somebody from EAA called, I explained I wasn't interested in all the new planes they were writing up. I wanted homebuilts, especially 103's, and every tip they could write up. I told them to call me when they changed back to what they were.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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They are not an organization but Kitplanes is almost exclusively focused on Experimental Amateur Built. They deserve our support. But my view is biased as they publish my electronic project articles.
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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:11 am Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Tom,
Seems as though they go through cycles.They try to get back to their roots, but it only lasts a few issues and it's back to the high dollar stuff.Do they not get information from our segment of aviation or do they not care?Our group here in Ohio has completed 4 new aircraft since 2004,but I don't think anyone of them has sent pictures or articles to EAA about their projects.It might be our problem.Thom R. used to write for them,he might share some insight.
G.Aman.mostly in agreement.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Have you heard of the Sport Aviation Association (SAA) yet?:
Their site:
http://www.sportaviationassociation.org/index.html
From their About page:
"The Sport Aviation Association is an organization founded by Paul H. Poberezny to help maintain what we know as grass roots aviation. Before you read further, it is important that you know and understand that we are NOT in competition with EAA. We want to complement EAA's efforts and help retain the heritage of the amateur aircraft builder. Our mission is not political - it is simply to encourage the fun, fellowship, and camaraderie that is so special and unique to aviation."
Ed Fisher is president. Membership is by donation and they send out a quarterly publication, "To Fly" (PDF) with a password. It has a strong focus on how to and homebuilding. To me, it's like the original/older Sport Aviation magazines I've read from EAA's archives.
Dai
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ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:24 am Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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On 06/05/2013 03:16 PM, Rick Lewis wrote:
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Does any anyone know of a other organization that is more oriented toward the home built people than EAA. I just received another Sport Aviation magazine, and after flipping thorough it I through it in the trash. I really don't care what piper and such are doing. I want to know about the home builders and what there doing and there progress. I want to see builder tips, good and bad. I have said in the pass that I would not resubscribe to EAA and after this subscription runs out, I'm done....
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I wholeheartedly agree about the magazine content. The focus has been
wrong for many years, but it's not too surprising. For an analogy, think
about typical high-end car magazines. Only a tiny fraction of the
subscribers will ever own a car that's covered in the magazine; almost
all are only dreamers and very few have any hope of actually owning
$400,000 car. Same applies to current SA readers; the market becomes so
much larger when you include the spam can drivers & those who don't even
fly. I've only been to OSH once in about a decade (and then only because
a friend basically begged me to go) because OSH is even worse than the
magazine. You can't find the airplanes among all the steak knives &
folding ladders. However....
They do a pretty good job of lobbying the Gub'mint. And some of them
seem to have re-discovered the old Experimenter spirit in the how-to
videos they are now producing. So, I've decided that 'Airventure' will
see no more of my money, but I will continue my membership to support
their lobbying efforts and the tiny fraction that still supports us.
Maybe we should all just campaign for a 2 tiered membership, where we
can pay 1/2 price & they can keep the new incarnation of Flying Magazine.
Charlie
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kuffel(at)cyberport.net
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| Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:53 pm Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Gary,
<< Seems as though they go through cycles...don't think anyone of them has sent pictures or articles to EAA >>
Very long cycles indeed. I didn't even pitch my project articles to EAA because it seemed they hadn't had a real how-to since the Roncz series on airplane design about 13 years ago.
Another question with them is I can't find an Author's Guide anywhere. This leaves the impression they only pay for articles from their in-house "Contributing Writers". The rest of us are supposed to volunteer a la Oshkosh?
Tom Kuffel
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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Tom,
You probably saw that post about the SSA. At our last NCLF meeting last fall we had the Wright Brothers as guest speakers,two NASA engineers who show up in costume and talk and answer questions,show films,all as if they were the real Wil and Orv.They are OUTSTANDING. But the guy from SAA was there as well,only by happen stance,pitching his organization.I think we could have given him a little more attention but he was really upstaged by the Wrights.This may be a better fit for our kind of flying.
G.Aman
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
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Gary,
When I was writing articles for EAA's Sport Pilot magazine, now defunct, Mary Jones was in charge of reviewing article ideas and editing. I was paid for every article that was published, not a lot but enough to feel appreciated. She is no longer in charge of that and when Sport Pilot magazine bit the dust I lost interest.
I am still a member of EAA but may let it lapse this year. Never been to Oshkosh; one reason is I'm not fond of huge crowds.... and I don't need any steak knives  .
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