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tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject: MGL Avionics Primary Flight Display ….is anyone using them

Gidday,

MGL Avionics have been around a while now, and I am wondering if anyone has chosen them over Dynon or GRT, or another EFIS manufacturer of favour who's name escapes me? They have a new 8.5 and 10.4" touchscreen, high resolution display, but I believe brightness is probably the most important thing. I do know that their operating system allows a significant amount of presentation modifying which might suit some builders whilst it can also lead to potential instability problems when compared with a tried and locked down operating system. Any input much appreciated.



Regards

Tony Renshaw

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ploucandco

Joined: 16 Sep 2007
Posts: 69

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:32 am Post subject: Re: MGL Avionics Primary Flight Display ï¿½.is anyone using

Tony, I am sure that MGL avionics are making very advanced products. But when I read some comments on forums like this one 

http://www.mglavionicsusers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1750

I would be very careful to invest a significant amount on money on these products. Especially if it is the main EFIS of your beloved plane.



From another perspective, when I see the consolidation that is going on in the avionics market for experimental aircrafts, e.g. Dynon invested in advanced flight systems or Garmin came up with a dedicated line of products, it is clear that the market is maturing and smaller players will get acquired or disappear.

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AirEupora

Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Posts: 186
Location: Dixon, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:14 am Post subject: Re: MGL Avionics Primary Flight

I bought the MGL Voyager about four years ago.  It just fits the Europa panel.  MGL operates under the idea that each unit can be improved on and the software is being update almost monthly.  There is a lot of things it can do and there are a lot of things that have been possible in the future, but it comes with a cost of staying ahead of the curve.



Dynon sell a nice unit, but you are locked in as to what the unit will do. 



MGL is introducing new products and improve there older products.  MY Voyager started life as a G1 and will soon be undated to a G3.  The software has been updated to do many things.  



If you want to lock on only one thing then the Dynon is a good match.  If you are looking to the future then the MGL units will be what you want, but you have to learn a lot to use the full capacity that they offer.

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N6ZY

Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:53 am Post subject: Re: MGL Avionics Primary Flight Display ï¿½.is anyone using

When I started shopping for an EFIS, I was very tempted by the MGL units.  I eventually did not go with them because, although very entrepreneurial, they keep changing the configuration and, worse, let you change it.  I do not want to go IFR with a configuration that is not stable and extensively fleet tested.  After 20 years in military avionics, I am very keen on configuration management.



You are right, with Dynon, you get what they offer with no changes.  I tend to think that they are really aiming at the VFR and LSA market.  After an extensive search, I ended up choosing between Advanced Flight Systems and Grand Rapids Technology.  AFS costs more, and just got bought out by Dynon, so I am going with GRT.



I had an earlier version of their system, and can vouch for the quality of their products.  And Greg, who owns GRT, is open to changes where they are justified.  Also he recommends that you do not fly IFR with his latest software until there is extensive fleet experience.  They do not get as much publicity, but I think that they currently have the best and most reliable products.



Jerry Fisher

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pestar

Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 61
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: MGL Avionics Primary Flight Display ï¿½.is anyone using

I have dual Voyagers G2's EFIS, 1 x Xtreme EFIS (endurance bus), 2 x MGL V10 radios and live in NZ.  See my avatar



I chose MGL over GRT, AFS and Dynon after visiting Oshkosh 2 years in a row.  



Why



I can create and have created my own screens.



The Voyagers EFIS talk to one and another.



I am a datacommunications engineer and am comfortable in this environment.



MGL had an integrated AP before the others which I use with PocketFMS using Trio servos (prior to the MGL servos availability).



We have a very good NZ agent which cannot be said for Dynon, GRT or AFS.  There units are good but if they break back to the USA they go.



Apart from debugging which took sometime due to the complex nature of my panel I have had no problems.



I have no round gauges at all, just dual MGL AHRS and dual busses.



Sometimes people who post (referring to the one highlighted) fire off before really thinking about it.  Yes I had my frustrations but in time they have all come through.



And lastly I like the upgrade path MGL offer and have taken advantage of it previously and will do so once the G3 becomes available.



OK I will get of my soapbox now, all will do their job very well.



Cheers Peter

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