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davevanlanen(at)sbcglobal
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 Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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I need some advice on ratchet tiedowns for the stabilizer skin and wing skins on the XL. For the stabilizer skin, the Assembly Guide recommends five 12’ endless ratchet tiedowns (#11699) from Highland. For the wings, the Assembly Guide recommends McMaster Carr 12’ 1-piece ratchet straps (#8842T17), and does not recommend the number needed.
Is there any reason I can’t use the same straps for both the stabilizer and wings? How many will I need for the wings? Can I use the two-piece style, since I can’t seem to find the one-piece style locally in the correct length?
Any help would be appreciated.
Dave Van Lanen
XL - stabilizer
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601zv(at)ritternet.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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It's been awhile but my memory of the experience suggests a minumum of 4 straps, and that 5 or 6 would make things work out smoother. I think I used a combination of several 12' straps and several more combos of shorter ones with fine results.
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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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Dave, The make and model of the straps is not critical. I got mine at Home Depot and they worked just fine. I got 12' long, ratcheting straps, which are about 1" wide. They need to be long enough to go around the wing, with the open nose skin sticking way up in the air. I think I used five or six on each wing. You need that many to put and keep an even "squeeze" to force the nose skin into place. I placed the ratcheting device on the rear wing skin with a folded shop rag under it to keep from scratching the skin. Be sure and use the 2 x 4 and the 1 x 2 along the nose skin to keep from developing wrinkles or waves as you tighten the straps. You'll get pretty good at this operation after you have done it three or four times, which is the minimum to get the job done. I think I actually pulled each wing three times.
Jay in Dallas, working on XL fuselage
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bryanmmartin
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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For the stabilizer, I just used nylon straps that I got at Big Lots for a couple bucks a four pack. These are about ten feet long and have a metal buckle at one end that you slip the other end through twice to cinch. The same type buckle used on back pack strap. They are easier to use than a ratchet strap and work just fine for this job. I cut slots in my work table with the circular saw and threaded the straps down through the slots, under the table surface and back through slots on the other side of the stabilizer. Then I just pulled the snug a little at a time, keeping the tension on all of them even. I think I used four of them for the stabilizer and put a length of 1 by 2 lumber under them to distribute the force to the skin.
I used the same straps for the nose skins on the wings but I had to string two together to get the length I needed. I used four sets of these straps to do the wings with a couple of 12' two by fours under them to distribute the load.
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I need some advice on ratchet tiedowns for the stabilizer skin and wing skins on the XL. For the stabilizer skin, the Assembly Guide recommends five 12’ endless ratchet tiedowns (#11699) from Highland. For the wings, the Assembly Guide recommends McMaster Carr 12’ 1-piece ratchet straps (#8842T17), and does not recommend the number needed.
Is there any reason I can’t use the same straps for both the stabilizer and wings? How many will I need for the wings? Can I use the two-piece style, since I can’t seem to find the one-piece style locally in the correct length?
Any help would be appreciated.
Dave Van Lanen
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gboothe(at)calply.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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Dave,
I agree with Jay – the type, style, brand shouldn’t matter. Heck, I used ¼” nylon rope with a trucker’s hitch, no problems.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion
Tail done, working on wings....
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Subject: Re: Ratchet Tiedowns
Dave, The make and model of the straps is not critical. I got mine at Home Depot and they worked just fine. I got 12' long, ratcheting straps, which are about 1" wide. They need to be long enough to go around the wing, with the open nose skin sticking way up in the air. I think I used five or six on each wing. You need that many to put and keep an even "squeeze" to force the nose skin into place. I placed the ratcheting device on the rear wing skin with a folded shop rag under it to keep from scratching the skin. Be sure and use the 2 x 4 and the 1 x 2 along the nose skin to keep from developing wrinkles or waves as you tighten the straps. You'll get pretty good at this operation after you have done it three or four times, which is the minimum to get the job done. I think I actually pulled each wing three times.
Jay in Dallas, working on XL fuselage
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mlfrancke(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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Dave, try Wal-Mart they have the Highland #11699 12' Endless Ractchet tiedowns ($4-$6 each)
Lee
Subject: Ratchet Tiedowns From: Dave VanLanen (davevanlanen(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davevanlanen(at)sbcglobal.net?subject=Re:%20Ratchet%20Tiedowns&replyto=20060701224630.D5323FEF6(at)barracuda.matronics.com[/email])) Date: [b]Sat Jul 01 - 3:47 PM[/b] | Quote: | | Quote: | I need some advice on ratchet tiedowns for the stabilizer skin and wing
skins on the XL. For the stabilizer skin, the Assembly Guide recommends
five 12' endless ratchet tiedowns (#11699) from Highland. For the wings,
the Assembly Guide recommends McMaster Carr 12' 1-piece ratchet straps
(#8842T17), and does not recommend the number needed.
Is there any reason I can't use the same straps for both the stabilizer and
wings? How many will I need for the wings? Can I use the two-piece style,
since I can't seem to find the one-piece style locally in the correct
length?
Any help would be appreciated.
Dave Van Lanen
XL - stabilizer
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paulrod36(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: Ratchet Tiedowns |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Dave, virtually any kind of rig that will tighten incrementally, and will not scratch the metal, will do. The real key is to insert a (padded) 2x4 or equivalent so that you lay the aluminum down evenly along the span. For an experiment, you can tighten down at one end (very gently) and watch how everything suddenly goes crooked. For the wing I used 2 eight-footers under either 4 or 5 straps, I forget which. It's not as difficult as the book implies.
Paul Rodriguez
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