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stratobee

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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:17 pm Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I've always logged into this forum that's hosted here at Matronics, even though I'm a TCFG member (I can't log in from the website). It's not really a forum, it's more of a list. I'm not sure that's the same forum you see if you log in from the TCFG website, or if I happened to stumble on some backdoor entry. In any case, all the posts look like a string of usenet list, with quotes embedded with weird chevrons etc in plain text. It all looks very 1994 and on code level. Is that how everyone else sees it to?



I would suggest we start a proper forum, with topics, and where members have to use their own name. I would model it after the Beech Forum, which is exemplary. I would use that web host engine.



I would also like to see more intermixing and intermingling between the turbine crowd and the piston crowd. Today there seems to be an abyss between the two - and no good place to find much information. The factory forum is pretty dead. If we could somehow combine them all in one place, we might get some real conversation going.



I understand there's a lot of info that's embedded here in lists from the past that would not be easy to port to a forum, but as it is now, it's very hard to search on the Matronics list - one almost has more luck just Googling for it.



Has there been any plans to port this forum or list to a fully blown forum? I'd be willing to pay for the hosting myself.

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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:45 pm Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

G'day Adam,



What cell number can I call you on?

Cheers

Russell

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:17 PM, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:

[quote]--> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>

 

 I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I've always logged into this forum that's hosted here at Matronics, even though I'm a TCFG member (I can't log in from the website). It's not really a forum, it's more of a list. I'm not sure that's the same forum you see if you log in from the TCFG website, or if I happened to stumble on some backdoor entry. In any case, all the posts look like a string of usenet list, with quotes embedded with weird chevrons etc in plain text. It all looks very 1994 and on code level. Is that how everyone else sees it to?

 

 I would suggest we start a proper forum, with topics, and where members have to use their own name. I would model it after the Beech Forum, which is exemplary. I would use that web host engine.

 

 I would also like to see more intermixing and intermingling between the turbine crowd and the piston crowd. Today there seems to be an abyss between the two - and no good place to find much information. The factory forum is pretty dead. If we could somehow combine them all in one place, we might get some real conversation going.

 

 I understand there's a lot of info that's embedded here in lists from the past that would not be easy to port to a forum, but as it is now, it's very hard to search on the Matronics list - one almost has more luck just Googling for it.

 

 Has there been any plans to port this forum or list to a fully blown forum?

 

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Peter Bichier

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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:56 pm Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Adam I conquer with you completely,



For one thing, most of Jim Bob's posting do not make it on the forum. How absurd is that?Â 

Last year, Moe was trying to communicate to Jim about the incoming Fly-in and Jim was trying to answer but was not being posted on the forum. It seems indeed that people in Commander land have more and more drifted to Facebook, where a casual post is fine, but there is no room for a discussion in that format.Â 

I dont' know if people have been communicating through the new TCFG web page, but it's been really a long time since I have seen a constructive conversation or inquiry about Commanders in this forum.

I know that other pillars in this forum such as Keith Gordon and John Towner have had problems posting as well, and many posting show in the forum but we do not get it in our emails. When things get too quiet, I have to log on the forum to realize I have been missing a batch of strings!

All that to say, I agree 100%, that the issue of a better platform discussion is necessary.

The idea to join both the Turbo and piston Commanders discussions have been at the core of this group for a long time and the Twin Commander folks have tried to reach to the piston group as well, but it is obvious that a common forum where we could all discuss Aero Commanders would be beneficial for both groups. We should let the users then decide on where to participate but have the options open.

I have heard of the site being moved somewhere else but the forum itself has stayed the same.





On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:

[quote]--> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>

 

 I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I've always logged into this forum that's hosted here at Matronics, even though I'm a TCFG member (I can't log in from the website). It's not really a forum, it's more of a list. I'm not sure that's the same forum you see if you log in from the TCFG website, or if I happened to stumble on some backdoor entry. In any case, all the posts look like a string of usenet list, with quotes embedded with weird chevrons etc in plain text. It all looks very 1994 and on code level. Is that how everyone else sees it to?

 

 I would suggest we start a proper forum, with topics, and where members have to use their own name. I would model it after the Beech Forum, which is exemplary. I would use that web host engine.

 

 I would also like to see more intermixing and intermingling between the turbine crowd and the piston crowd. Today there seems to be an abyss between the two - and no good place to find much information. The factory forum is pretty dead. If we could somehow combine them all in one place, we might get some real conversation going.

 

 I understand there's a lot of info that's embedded here in lists from the past that would not be easy to port to a forum, but as it is now, it's very hard to search on the Matronics list - one almost has more luck just Googling for it.

 

 Has there been any plans to port this forum or list to a fully blown forum?

 

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 Adam

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447355#447355

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:50 am Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

So, I'm glad someone brought this up as I'm new to the group and absolutely hating the 1990's communication method  Â  I am a software engineer and own a software company that provides business systems to many different industries.Â  Only point here is that I own a large amount of web servers and would be more than happy to host a new forum with the latest forum software we can find.Â  We can setup a few admins on the group to help manage it and invite everyone we can find to participate in the talks.Â  I looked around and found one such forum but there was no activity on it and I'm not sure why not.Â  Maybe we can all just move over to their site and start using it instead of using this email list.



My main complaint with this list is some conversations pop in out of nowhere with an obvious conversation that was going on but I only get a portion of it.

Just my 2 cents,

Glenn

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:56 AM, pbgtutubo . <yvabe560(at)gmail.com (yvabe560(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  Adam I conquer with you completely,



For one thing, most of Jim Bob's posting do not make it on the forum. How absurd is that?Â 

Last year, Moe was trying to communicate to Jim about the incoming Fly-in and Jim was trying to answer but was not being posted on the forum. It seems indeed that people in Commander land have more and more drifted to Facebook, where a casual post is fine, but there is no room for a discussion in that format.Â 

I dont' know if people have been communicating through the new TCFG web page, but it's been really a long time since I have seen a constructive conversation or inquiry about Commanders in this forum.

I know that other pillars in this forum such as Keith Gordon and John Towner have had problems posting as well, and many posting show in the forum but we do not get it in our emails. When things get too quiet, I have to log on the forum to realize I have been missing a batch of strings!

All that to say, I agree 100%, that the issue of a better platform discussion is necessary.

The idea to join both the Turbo and piston Commanders discussions have been at the core of this group for a long time and the Twin Commander folks have tried to reach to the piston group as well, but it is obvious that a common forum where we could all discuss Aero Commanders would be beneficial for both groups. We should let the users then decide on where to participate but have the options open.

I have heard of the site being moved somewhere else but the forum itself has stayed the same.





On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:

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		  --> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>

 

 I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I've always logged into this forum that's hosted here at Matronics, even though I'm a TCFG member (I can't log in from the website). It's not really a forum, it's more of a list. I'm not sure that's the same forum you see if you log in from the TCFG website, or if I happened to stumble on some backdoor entry. In any case, all the posts look like a string of usenet list, with quotes embedded with weird chevrons etc in plain text. It all looks very 1994 and on code level. Is that how everyone else sees it to?

 

 I would suggest we start a proper forum, with topics, and where members have to use their own name. I would model it after the Beech Forum, which is exemplary. I would use that web host engine.

 

 I would also like to see more intermixing and intermingling between the turbine crowd and the piston crowd. Today there seems to be an abyss between the two - and no good place to find much information. The factory forum is pretty dead. If we could somehow combine them all in one place, we might get some real conversation going.

 

 I understand there's a lot of info that's embedded here in lists from the past that would not be easy to port to a forum, but as it is now, it's very hard to search on the Matronics list - one almost has more luck just Googling for it.

 

 Has there been any plans to port this forum or list to a fully blown forum?

 

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 Adam

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447355#447355

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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stratobee

Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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Location: Los Angeles

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Hi Russel.



I can be reached on 310 383-2944.



Glenn - that's good to know. Would you want to donate server space? Do you happen to know what software Beech Talk runs? I'm a member on a lot of aviation forums, both here and in Europe, and BT is the best one I've seen. It's got the buttons for View Your Posts, so you can immediately check if someone's responded to your topic. Or the View Unread Posts, so you can directly see what's new since last time. It's also got good profiling and you can upload both embedded photos hosted somewhere else, but also upload image in post, which I know helps a lot of the less computer savvy posters.



I would also suggest we copy the rule that one needs to post under full name. It makes for much more well behaved forums, although we seems to be a generally friendly bunch overall.

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:52 pm Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Hi Adam,



Great - will call you tomorrow (Thursday).

Cheers

Russell

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:19 PM, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:

[quote]--> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>

 

 Hi Russel.

 

 I can be reached on [url=tel:310%20383-2944]310 383-2944[/url].

 

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stratobee

Joined: 28 Dec 2010
Posts: 159
Location: Los Angeles

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded.



Thoughts?

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Adam

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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me. 



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		   On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded.

 

 Thoughts?

 

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stratobee

Joined: 28 Dec 2010
Posts: 159
Location: Los Angeles

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Registered www.twincommanders.com now.

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cloudcraft(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

Let us not forget the .aero domain.

Keith S Gordon

Sent on the fly ðŸŒ



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From: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)GMAIL.COM> 

Date: 24/09/2015  17:55  (GMT-08:00) 

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com 

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum? 



--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com>



Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me. 



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		   On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com> wrote:

 

 --> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com>

 

 Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded.

 

 Thoughts?

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:07 am Post subject: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/Â  that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it.Â  I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to.Â  Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one?Â  Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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 Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.

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