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groups(at)thegoddards.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:50 pm Post subject: New panel

I'm planning on changing my panel to get rid of the steam gauges and fit Dynon D180 and D10A units along with tidying up the layout to make it a little more logical. I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing? I also tried the demo of xpanel but the Europa template seems to be way too big (or the instruments are too small) and wondered what software people have used to lay out the panel?



Thanks



Vince Goddard

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa



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stranfaer(at)btinternet.c
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:01 pm Post subject: New panel

Vince

Buy the aluminium panel blanks from Europa, then use the blanks to lay cardboard actual size mock ups on!

Pic of mine attached

rgds

David



 

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I'm planning on changing my panel to get rid of the steam gauges and fit Dynon D180 and D10A units along with tidying up the layout to make it a little more logical. I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing? I also tried the demo of xpanel but the Europa template seems to be way too big (or the instruments are too small) and wondered what software people have used to lay out the panel?



Thanks



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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:37 pm Post subject: New panel

On 2016-06-04, at 23:49, Groups <Groups(at)thegoddards.com> wrote:



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		   I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing?


	


Vince - I laid out my panels using CADintosh. That only runs on Mac, but it can do DXF exports which should be readable by most other CAD applications. Let me know if you would like me to send you the DXF files for the main & radio panels.



in friendship



Rowland



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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:03 am Post subject: Re: New panel

Vince, here you are.

Width 27.807"

Height 12.905"



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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:05 am Post subject: New panel

Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs. 

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ 

   

 

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in friendship



Rowland



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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:11 am Post subject: New panel

Vince

I have a complete scuttle that was removed from my aircraft if you arrange collection you can have it to play around with and make templates as per the mail from my names sake

Rgds

David Joyce

The other one



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On 5 Jun 2016, at 09:05, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk) wrote:

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Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs. 

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ 

   

 

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in friendship



Rowland



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groups(at)thegoddards.com
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:43 am Post subject: New panel

Hi Rowland,



The DXF files would be most welcome and also the CADintosh files as I do have a Mac I can use.



Thanks



Vince Goddard

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa



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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:45 am Post subject: New panel

Thanks for the kind offer David (the other one) but dumb question what’s a scuttle?

 

 

Thanks

 

Vince Goddard

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa

 

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David private

Sent: 05 June 2016 09:11

To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: New panel

 

Vince



I have a complete scuttle that was removed from my aircraft if you arrange collection you can have it to play around with and make templates as per the mail from my names sake



 



Rgds



David Joyce



The other one



Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Jun 2016, at 09:05, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk) wrote:

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Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs.

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ

 

 



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I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing?Vince - I laid out my panels using CADintosh. That only runs on Mac, but it can do DXF exports which should be readable by most other CAD applications. Let me know if you would like me to send you the DXF files for the main & radio panels. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson          ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... 	
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groups(at)thegoddards.com
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:51 am Post subject: New panel

Hi David,

 

I was hoping to design and make the removable sections before taking the panel back out of the aircraft for the rework. If I can printout the sub panels full size then I will try the lick and stick method as it can be a quicker method initially when playing about. Will keep you all update on the progress. 

 

Thanks

 

Vince Goddard

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa

 

 

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk

Sent: 05 June 2016 09:05

To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: New panel

 

Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs.

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ

 

 



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I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing?Vince - I laid out my panels using CADintosh. That only runs on Mac, but it can do DXF exports which should be readable by most other CAD applications. Let me know if you would like me to send you the DXF files for the main & radio panels. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson          ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... 	
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stranfaer(at)btinternet.c
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:21 am Post subject: New panel

It's the whole unit I removed mine and replaced with  a new one as it needed changing pic enclosed for you 

[img]cid:3C6D1341-59F5-4D7B-BDFC-6AEF485201A5[/img]Rgds

David



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On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:44, Vince (Groups Email) <groups(at)thegoddards.com (groups(at)thegoddards.com)> wrote:

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Thanks for the kind offer David (the other one) but dumb question whatâ€™s a scuttle?

 

 

Thanks

 

Vince Goddard

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa

 

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of David private

Sent: 05 June 2016 09:11

To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Europa-List: New panel

 

Vince



I have a complete scuttle that was removed from my aircraft if you arrange collection you can have it to play around with and make templates as per the mail from my names sake



 



Rgds



David Joyce



The other one



Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Jun 2016, at 09:05, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk) wrote:

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Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs.

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ

 

 



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I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing?Vince - I laid out my panels using CADintosh. That only runs on Mac, but it can do DXF exports which should be readable by most other CAD applications. Let me know if you would like me to send you the DXF files for the main & radio panels. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson          ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... 	
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:28 am Post subject: New panel

Hi David,

 

When you’ve changed your panel layouts what was involved re the LAA?

 

Thanks

 

Vince Goddard

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa

 

 

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk

Sent: 05 June 2016 09:05

To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: New panel

 

Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs.

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ

 

 



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I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing?Vince - I laid out my panels using CADintosh. That only runs on Mac, but it can do DXF exports which should be readable by most other CAD applications. Let me know if you would like me to send you the DXF files for the main & radio panels. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson          ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... 	
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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:40 pm Post subject: New panel

Vince, I believe I got away without calling it a mod, just updating my list of flight instruments and saying no change in weight, but I would ask them or your inspector if in doubt. If you are introducing a removable subpanel for first time I guess they may call that a mod. Regards, David 

   

 

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Hi David, 

  

When you&rsquo;ve changed your panel layouts what was involved re the LAA? 

  

Thanks 

  

Vince Goddard 

G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa 

  

    

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.ukSent: 05 June 2016 09:05To: europa-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: New panel 

 

 

  

Vince, You can always do it the pre CAD way - cut your existing panel out where you want the new removable section (with a thin saw), and use the cut out as yourpattern for the new panel. Make paper shapes of dimensions of instruments to go in and play around for best fit. It has worked well for me for three panel designs. 

Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ 

   

  

 

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I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing? Vince - I laid out my panels using CADintosh. That only runs on Mac, but it can do DXF exports which should be readable by most other CAD applications. Let me know if you would like me to send you the DXF files for the main & radio panels. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson          ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... 	
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:23 pm Post subject: New panel

There is a standard mod for replacing the main instrument panel with     a removable.Â  

     

     Pete

     G-RMAC 

     

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Vince, I believe I got away without calling it a mod, just         updating my list of flight instruments and saying no change in         weight, but I would ask them or your inspector if in doubt. If         you are introducing a removable subpanel for first time I guess         they may call that a mod. Regards, David       

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titouauvray(at)neuf.fr
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:04 pm Post subject: New panel

Hello gays, I'm pierre from france,

My english is ready soon perfectðŸ˜‚ðŸ‘Œ.

I looking to buy a speed kit for my europa xs a second end but clean or new at a good price.

If someboby have a way please to contact me.

Pierre tel: 0033781117272

Email: titouauvray(at)neuf.fr

Ciao la compagnie



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		   Le 5 juin 2016 Ã  00:49, Groups <groups(at)thegoddards.com> a Ã©crit :

 

 

 

 I'm planning on changing my panel to get rid of the steam gauges and fit Dynon D180 and D10A units along with tidying up the layout to make it a little more logical. I have tried searching for a drawing of the sub panels but can not find one that has the dimensions. Does anyone have a usable drawing? I also tried the demo of xpanel but the Europa template seems to be way too big (or the instruments are too small) and wondered what software people have used to lay out the panel?

 

 Thanks

 

 Vince Goddard

 G-BWUP ULPower'ed Europa

 

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