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pete(at)lawless.info
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:30 am Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Hi All
A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure
sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my Classic.
I believe the new Rotax pump with the drain will not fit in the Classic
as it touches the radiator. I looked on the Ruddies-Berlin website but
they do not seem to offer the 7.2097155 anymore.
Any ideas where I might find one UK or Europe or is there an alternative
pump that will fit the Classic layout?
Thanks
Pete
G-RMAC Classic #109
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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:17 pm Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Pete,
I have the same dilemma with respect to the latest fuel pump touching
the radiator on my Classic.
I have therefore been seriously considering making the fuel system 'all
electric' as it is with the 914 except that I will use a second Facet
solid state fuel pump like the one originally supplied by Europa.Â
Further, my thoughts are to install this new pump in parallel with the
existing Facet pump unless I receive good advice to the contrary.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
On 11.01.19 3:29 am, Pete Lawless wrote:
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Hi All
A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure
sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my
Classic.
I believe the new Rotax pump with the drain will not fit in the
Classic as it touches the radiator. I looked on the Ruddies-Berlin
website but they do not seem to offer the 7.2097155 anymore.
Any ideas where I might find one UK or Europe or is there an
alternative pump that will fit the Classic layout?
Thanks
Pete
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freddythek10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:39 pm Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Dual fuel pumps in parallel w/ their respective dual filters avoids a single mode of failure…unless I’m missing something…F.
| Quote: | On Jan 12, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.au> wrote:
Pete,
I have the same dilemma with respect to the latest fuel pump touching the radiator on my Classic.
I have therefore been seriously considering making the fuel system 'all electric' as it is with the 914 except that I will use a second Facet solid state fuel pump like the one originally supplied by Europa. Further, my thoughts are to install this new pump in parallel with the existing Facet pump unless I receive good advice to the contrary.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
On 11.01.19 3:29 am, Pete Lawless wrote:
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> Hi All
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> A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my Classic.
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> I believe the new Rotax pump with the drain will not fit in the Classic as it touches the radiator. I looked on the Ruddies-Berlin website but they do not seem to offer the 7.2097155 anymore.
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> Any ideas where I might find one UK or Europe or is there an alternative pump that will fit the Classic layout?
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> Thanks
>
> Pete
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pete(at)lawless.info
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:06 am Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Thanks Kingsley
Can you just confirm you have got the new style pump to fit even though
it touches the rad?
I have kindly been offered a new old style pump so the immediate problem
has gone away.
Certainly changing to all electric would be a cheaper option than
converting to an XS front end. Either way one should be able to find a
compatible mechanical pump. What i really like about the conventional
Rotax set up is that you can loose all the electrics and the engine
continues to run.
Regards
Pete
On 12/01/2019 23:09, Kingsley Hurst wrote:
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<kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.au>
Pete,
I have the same dilemma with respect to the latest fuel pump touching
the radiator on my Classic.
I have therefore been seriously considering making the fuel system
'all electric' as it is with the 914 except that I will use a second
Facet solid state fuel pump like the one originally supplied by
Europa. Further, my thoughts are to install this new pump in parallel
with the existing Facet pump unless I receive good advice to the
contrary.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
On 11.01.19 3:29 am, Pete Lawless wrote:
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> Hi All
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> A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure
> sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my
> Classic.
>
> I believe the new Rotax pump with the drain will not fit in the
> Classic as it touches the radiator. I looked on the Ruddies-Berlin
> website but they do not seem to offer the 7.2097155 anymore.
>
> Any ideas where I might find one UK or Europe or is there an
> alternative pump that will fit the Classic layout?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:00 pm Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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On 13.01.19 8:05 pm, Pete Lawless wrote:
< Can you just confirm you have got the new style pump to fit even though it touches the rad?
No I don't have the new pump Pete, I just took measurements from another aircraft that did have one.
< What i really like about the conventional Rotax set up is that you can loose all the electrics and the engine continues to run.
I wouldn't argue with that!
Cheers again
Kingsley
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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:58 am Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Can’t remember Kingsley, is the Facet block reverse flow?
G
| Quote: | On 12 Jan 2019, at 23:09, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.au> wrote:
Pete,
I have the same dilemma with respect to the latest fuel pump touching the radiator on my Classic.
I have therefore been seriously considering making the fuel system 'all electric' as it is with the 914 except that I will use a second Facet solid state fuel pump like the one originally supplied by Europa. Further, my thoughts are to install this new pump in parallel with the existing Facet pump unless I receive good advice to the contrary.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
On 11.01.19 3:29 am, Pete Lawless wrote:
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> Hi All
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> A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my Classic.
>
> I believe the new Rotax pump with the drain will not fit in the Classic as it touches the radiator. I looked on the Ruddies-Berlin website but they do not seem to offer the 7.2097155 anymore.
>
> Any ideas where I might find one UK or Europe or is there an alternative pump that will fit the Classic layout?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
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eoinmaguire(at)hotmail.co
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:45 am Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Hi All
I actually fitted the new style pump yesterday, it’s tight (about 2-3mm clearance) but it does actually fit on my classic!
Kind Regards
Eoin
Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Jan 2019, at 23:03, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.au (kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.au)> wrote:
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On 13.01.19 8:05 pm, Pete Lawless wrote:
< Can you just confirm you have got the new style pump to fit even though it touches the rad?
No I don't have the new pump Pete, I just took measurements from another aircraft that did have one.
< What i really like about the conventional Rotax set up is that you can loose all the electrics and the engine continues to run.
I wouldn't argue with that!
Cheers again
Kingsley
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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:49 pm Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Hello Graham,
Not exactly sure what you mean by ‘reverse flow’ but whether or not it has a non return valve I don’t know sorry.
K
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| Quote: | On 14 Jan 2019, at 8:57 pm, Gaham Singleton <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com> wrote:
Can’t remember Kingsley, is the Facet block reverse flow?
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budyerly(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:53 am Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Pete,
I had the same issue with the new fuel pump. I took Creighton Smith’s Radiator to my welder and moved the hose fitting to clear.
New fuel pump interference:
[cid:image002.jpg(at)01D4ACB8.09462960]
Looking back that was the easiest/cheapest fix since research gave me no other options at the time. The fuel pumps I could modify with were $360 US and the welding was $50 (see below).
[cid:image006.jpg(at)01D4ACB8.09462960]
Flygas has created a mechanical pump that fits on the rotor for the 914 and 912iS. 3bar is too much for the normal 912 and 912S.
Corbi Aircraft also has a billet pump which is usable for the 912 and 912S.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
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To: europa-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:europa-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155
Hi All
A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure
sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my Classic
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pete(at)lawless.info
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:17 pm Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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Hi Bud
Interesting. Even with the moved rad pipe that is very close!
I was hoping some one would know of a compatible replacement. Will investigate your suggestions although I have kindly been supplied with an original pump here in the UK.
Wish we knew what sort of car it was originally fitted to, probably some type of Opal.
Regards
Pete
On 15/01/2019 14:52, Bud Yerly wrote:
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budyerly(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:17 pm Post subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155 |
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You bet.
You would think in this day and age you would be able to in put apart number and get all the info.
Bud
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:09:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155
Hi Bud
Interesting. Even with the moved rad pipe that is very close!
I was hoping some one would know of a compatible replacement. Will investigate your suggestions although I have kindly been supplied with an original pump here in the UK.
Wish we knew what sort of car it was originally fitted to, probably some type of Opal.
Regards
Pete
On 15/01/2019 14:52, Bud Yerly wrote:
Pete,
I had the same issue with the new fuel pump. I took Creighton Smith’s Radiator to my welder and moved the hose fitting to clear.
New fuel pump interference:
[cid:part1.AC4CDF6E.DDDAED84(at)lawless.info]
Looking back that was the easiest/cheapest fix since research gave me no other options at the time. The fuel pumps I could modify with were $360 US and the welding was $50 (see below).
[cid:part2.EABDE25A.447D636F(at)lawless.info]
Flygas has created a mechanical pump that fits on the rotor for the 914 and 912iS. 3bar is too much for the normal 912 and 912S.
Corbi Aircraft also has a billet pump which is usable for the 912 and 912S.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
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From: Pete Lawless<mailto:pete(at)lawless.info>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 12:33 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:europa-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Pierburg fuel pump 7.2097155
Hi All
A flashing fuel pressure light, probably caused by a failing pressure
sensor, got me thinking about a spare fuel pump for the 912ul in my Classic
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