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art(at)zemon.name
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 Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:53 am Post subject: WIFI Repeater/Booster Options For My Remote Steel Hangar??? |
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Folks,
I want to add a few things to what Bob wrote.
5.8 GHz attenuates rapidly as it passes through walls. You may find that just two or three walls are enough to make the signal unusable. Play with the location of your WiFi access point. Moving it a few feet side to side or up and down can make a huge difference.
2.4 GHz doesn't attenuate as badly as the signal passes through walls, ceilings, etc. but microwave ovens interfere with it badly. If you are out in the country, as opposed to in an apartment building with dozens of other WiFi access points, you may find that 2.4 GHz gives you broader, easier to manage coverage.
2.4 GHz looks like it has lots of channels but, in fact, only channels 1, 6, and 11 are useful here in the US. They are the only three which do not overlap. See https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/connectivity/wifi-ieee-802-11/channels-frequencies-bands-bandwidth.php
When you configure your WiFi radio(s), make sure that you channels don't overlap, either your own equipment or your neighbors'. On Android, I use the Wifi Analyzer tool to display what is going on. There are similar ones on iOS, I'm sure.
Many WiFi routers let you choose a maximum speed. In actuality, you are choosing the frequency bandwidth of the channel that you are using. Generally speaking, the transmitter power remains unchanged. If you choose a higher maximum speed, the transmitter spreads the power across a broader frequency range. You get more speed but less distance. By choosing a lower maximum speed, the transmitter focuses its power on a narrower frequency range and you get more distance. If all you do in the steel out-building is check your email, not watch Netflix and YouTube, you don't need much speed.
Cheers,
-- Art Z.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:35 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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There is an easier way, I can suggest you to buy one more wifi router and to connect it with an UTP cable that is long enough to reach the other router. My house is big, and I bought one more router because one wasn’t enough for the whole house. If you want more ideas () it may be useful for you, it is telling you how to configure router to work on larger distance oar gives ideas how to connect 2 routers with each other. It may be useful for you and for others. |
Just finished resolving a similar
problem with my wifi system. A recent
refurbishment of a deck at the back of
my house offered an opportunity to
move my main router to the highest
possible point inside the house. Couldn't
use the attic due to temperature variations
but we added a power and cat5 cable conduit
up through the walls to an upstairs
bedroom.
The router is now about 20' above
terrain on the property. I can
now remain 'connected' for up to
200 to 300 feet all around the house.
Dr. Dee's system needed cat5 interconnect
so I've been using an 'extender' at her
desk. These don't have a WAN port, only
4 LAN ports. They listen-talk on 2.4 and
5.8G so you can set them up to become
another wifi 'source' with their own
SSID. I set up Dr. Dee's with a 5G
SSID only because it let's me monitor
her connectivity from my mobile phone.
Other than convenience of maintenance,
the extender could be radio-silent
and only the cat5 ports active to
connect up her office.
I have another extender as wifi
repeaters with independent SSIDs
for the 'kids' wifi. It's powered
through a programmable timer that
limits their access.
A third extender is kept on hand
to supply a cat5 portal to the system
for times that I'm working a computer
that doesn't have wifi capability.
There is a boat-load of extender
products out there at really
attractive prices. The key to
good coverage is improving
radio illumination of the property
where (like in airplanes) ALTITUDE
has a profound effect on range.
Getting my main router elevated made
a huge difference. Adding extenders
in remote buildings (also as
high and clear as practical) would
offer both wifi SSID and Cat5
interconnection in the building.
For your steel hangar situation,
mounting a radio-silent extender
in a plastic housing outside on a
wall facing the house might do it.
You could then bring cat5 into
the hangar to another router that
puts the hangar on the 'net with
its own system. I've offered to
try this for a friend out in
the Gyp Hills with outbuildings
a quarter mile away from the house.
Will post the results as they become
known.
Bob . . .
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject: WIFI Repeater/Booster Options For My Remote Steel Hangar??? |
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On 7/9/2019 4:35 PM, donjohnston wrote:
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I did something similar to this for a customer a few years back. They had a garage about 150' away from the office and wanted network access in the garage. Parking lot was paved so laying cable wasn't an option.
We went with an outdoor wireless extender. Basically, two outdoor antennas (there were directional) that we connected to a wireless AP in the shop.
Worked great. But costs about $500. Looks like prices have come down.
Engenius was the brand.
Also,
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https://www.google.com/search?ei=ziIIW5XaA8zXzwKzr4dI&q=Ubiquiti+nano+station&oq=Ubiquiti+nano+station&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0i10k1l6.3555.99914.0.101253.3.3.0.0.0.0.230.649.0j1j2.3.0....0...1c.1j2.64.psy-ab..0.3.645...0j0i67k1j0i20i264k1.0.GvJK3J6l8As
No 1st hand experience, but some linux guys who are network gurus
recommended them. Apparently they can be quite long range. This one:
https://www.balticnetworks.com/nsm5-ubiquiti-nanostation-m5-airmax-intl.html
claims range to 15km.
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art(at)zemon.name
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:34 pm Post subject: WIFI Repeater/Booster Options For My Remote Steel Hangar??? |
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At that kind of distance, you might consider building a couple of directional antennas out of Pringles cans. It works really well, believe it or not
-- Art Z.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:52 PM donjohnston <don(at)velocity-xl.com (don(at)velocity-xl.com)> wrote:
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I did something similar to this for a customer a few years back. They had a garage about 150' away from the office and wanted network access in the garage. Parking lot was paved so laying cable wasn't an option.
We went with an outdoor wireless extender. Basically, two outdoor antennas (there were directional) that we connected to a wireless AP in the shop.
Worked great. But costs about $500. Looks like prices have come down. |
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billhuntersemail(at)gmail
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:45 pm Post subject: WIFI Repeater/Booster Options For My Remote Steel Hangar??? |
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My hangar is 40 feet away from the house period I first tried a pair of these
NETGEAR PowerLINE 1000 Mbps WiFi, 802.11ac, 1 Gigabit Port - Essentials Edition (PLW1010-100NAS and that was unsuccessful probably because the house has a solar system and SunPower uses a similar adapter and I think they were interfering with each other.
I did end up buying the Ccrane directional internet extender antenna and I now have internet in my hangar! Inside my house at a window pointing toward the Hanger is by Wi-Fi transmitter so I had to buy only one directional antenna . In your case I would recommend buying two directional antennas because of the distance.
CC Vector Extended Long Range WiFi Repeater System 2.4 GHz- Extends WiFi Coverage to a Distant Location https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076KRTXQ6/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_WJxjDbEA8HY1V
Research this webpage to get some ideas but make sure you always buy these contraptions in a pair from the same manufacturer
https://www.google.com/amp/s/rootsaid.com/best-wifi-antennas/amp/
Thanks,
Bill Hunter
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 03:39 Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:
| Quote: | At that kind of distance, you might consider building a couple of directional antennas out of Pringles cans. It works really well, believe it or not
-- Art Z.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:52 PM donjohnston <don(at)velocity-xl.com (don(at)velocity-xl.com)> wrote:
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I did something similar to this for a customer a few years back. They had a garage about 150' away from the office and wanted network access in the garage. Parking lot was paved so laying cable wasn't an option.
We went with an outdoor wireless extender. Basically, two outdoor antennas (there were directional) that we connected to a wireless AP in the shop.
Worked great. But costs about $500. Looks like prices have come down. |
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