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I have a two place Ferguson II. It survived the 2019 tornado at Eufaula, Alabama. I made some repairs to wings. I have done many light planes. No fabric on it at this time. Had a Rotax 582. Lots of instruments and large gas tank. New tires. This is a what we called a Kolb knock off. Fashioned after Kolb mk I. Not going to have time to complete project. Have two grand plus labor in it. Make offer. Email for pics. Ted Cowan tc1917(at)bellsouth.net
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1. 12:27 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Richard Girard)
2. 12:36 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Richard Girard)
3. 12:40 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (william sullivan)
4. 01:00 PM - Photo of oil injection cable (Dan Ried)
5. 01:05 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (B Young)
6. 04:00 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Stuart Harner)
7. 06:02 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Richard Pike)
8. 06:12 PM - Re: Oil injection cable (Richard Pike)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 12:27:09 PM PST US
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
William, I had to load the picture into my photo editor to see what Eric's
airplane really is. It is an Ultrastar all right, the boom comes from the
wing junction with the engine below, but someone tacked a nose gear onto it
..
Rick
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> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:35 PM william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net>
> wrote:
>
> That is not an Ultrastar, it's one version of a Firestar. I can't tell an
y
> more without looking at the wings.
>
> Bill Sullivan
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 01:23:26 PM EDT, Eric SOULET <
> eric.soulet(at)diag-dechets.fr> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an Ultrastar Kolb which is strongly punctual despite the trim ful
ly
>
> The centering is at 29%.
>
> I have to modify the incidence of the stabilizer.
>
> On langing engine idling it even becomes dangerous.
>
> Do you have any advice!
>
>
> Cordialement
>
>
> Eric SOULET
>
>
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=9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
Groucho Marx
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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:36:23 PM PST US
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
Eric, What you have is someone's own ideas plastered on to something that
looks like an Ultrastar. The biggest problem, concern, whatever, is the
nose wheel. Second is the way your elevators are hanging from the
horizontal stabilizer. You've got a real mess here.
As for landing, the best advice I can give you is what I was given when I
got my Mk III 14 years ago. Don't try to come in at idle, fly it on until
you're used to how it lands. I made a video of landing the MK III you can
find on Youtube at rick51076. It was intended for people transitioning
from GA aircraft to the Kolb and dealt mostly with the difference using
flaps make.
Good luck, stay healthy, and blur skies,
Rick
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> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 8:50 PM JOSEPH WRIGHT <mojavjoe(at)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I suggest you cover the wing gap.
>
> On March 29, 2020 at 4:12 PM Eric SOULET <eric.soulet(at)diag-dechets.fr>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an Ultrastar Kolb which is strongly punctual despite the trim ful
ly
>
> The centering is at 29%.
>
> I have to modify the incidence of the stabilizer.
>
> On langing engine idling it even becomes dangerous.
>
> Do you have any advice!
>
>
> Cordialement
>
>
> Eric SOULET from France
>
>
--
=9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
Groucho Marx
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx>
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 12:40:52 PM PST US
From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
Huh. Thanks. I couldn't see that. Weird.
do not archive
On Monday, March 30, 2020, 03:27:22 PM EDT, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)
gmail.com> wrote:
William, I had to load the picture into my photo editor to see what Eric's
airplane really is.=C2- It is an Ultrastar all right, the boom comes fro
m the wing junction with the engine below, but someone tacked a nose gear o
nto it.
Rick
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:35 PM william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net>
wrote:
That is not an Ultrastar, it's one version of a Firestar. I can't tell any
more without looking at the wings.
Bill Sullivan
On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 01:23:26 PM EDT, Eric SOULET <eric.soulet(at)d
iag-dechets.fr> wrote:
Hello,
I have an Ultrastar Kolb =C2-which is strongly punctual despite the trim
fully
The centering is at 29%.
I have to modify the incidence of the stabilizer.
On langing engine idling it even becomes dangerous.
Do you have any advice!
=C2-
Cordialement
=C2-
Eric SOULET
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
--
=9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
=C2-=C2-Groucho Marx
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 01:00:05 PM PST US
From: Dan Ried <mibear117(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Photo of oil injection cable
Sent from my iPhone
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 01:05:54 PM PST US
From: B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
Eric sent me a email off list. French English translator gave me this.
Thank you for your interest in my message. I have 2 Ultrastar 1 purple and
1 blue. Purple flies very well see on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5ulWECN9dmA
,
it has a stabilizer incidence adjustment: see purple stab. The blue is very
pungent after the first flight I changed the incidence of the stabilizer:
see blue stab. On the second flight of the blue, less but still stinging,
see position of the depth trim: blue trim. So I checked the centering which
is good 29%, see centering. I don=99t know if I=99m focusing fu
rther back or
changing the angle of the stabilizer again.
Boyd Young
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 04:00:42 PM PST US
From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Subject: RE: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
Doing a lot of reading between the lines here but my take is that the
blue one is having pitch issues. If the 29% is a reference to the center
of gravity being at 29% of wing cord, my guess is that his CG is too far
forward. Probably due to the nose wheel?
If this is correct, I can see him running out of elevator in a flair and
wheel borrowing the nose gear on landing.
Did I miss something?
Stuart
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of B Young
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
Eric sent me a email off list. French English translator gave me this.
Thank you for your interest in my message. I have 2 Ultrastar 1 purple
and 1 blue. Purple flies very well see on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/5ulWECN9dmA, it has a stabilizer incidence adjustment:
see purple stab. The blue is very pungent after the first flight I
changed the incidence of the stabilizer: see blue stab. On the second
flight of the blue, less but still stinging, see position of the depth
trim: blue trim. So I checked the centering which is good 29%, see
centering. I don=99t know if I=99m focusing further back or
changing the angle of the stabilizer again.
Boyd Young
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 06:02:25 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
In the video that was linked - https://youtu.be/5ulWECN9dmA - It is hard to tell
from the video, but it appears that there is a very high ground speed before
lifting off. It is also apparent that there is no gap seal. If the cg is at
29% and there is no gap seal, I am surprised that there is enough elevator authority
to be able to land it at any speed.
Friend Eric; install a gap seal over the center section of the wings and get rid
of some of the weight in the front of the airplane.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495486#495486
________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 06:12:52 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Oil injection cable
From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
If the end of your cable is bad, you can shorten it a bit as long as you shorten the cable sheath an equal amount. If I remember correctly, this fitting is a perfect fit and quite well made: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/wireswivels.php
Azusa wire swivel part #2361, costs .80, plus $5 shipping...
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495487#495487
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I have a two place Ferguson II. It survived the 2019 tornado at Eufaula, Alabama. I made some repairs to wings. I have done many light planes. No fabric on it at this time. Had a Rotax 582. Lots of instruments and large gas tank. New tires. This is a what we called a Kolb knock off. Fashioned after Kolb mk I. Not going to have time to complete project. Have two grand plus labor in it. Make offer. Email for pics. Ted Cowantc1917(at)bellsouth.net
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 31, 2020, at 1:40 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server kolb-list(at)matronics.com wrote:
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> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
> HTML Version:
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 20-03-30&Archive=Kolb
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> Today's Message Index:
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>
> 1. 12:27 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Richard Girard)
> 2. 12:36 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Richard Girard)
> 3. 12:40 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (william sullivan)
> 4. 01:00 PM - Photo of oil injection cable (Dan Ried)
> 5. 01:05 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (B Young)
> 6. 04:00 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Stuart Harner)
> 7. 06:02 PM - Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help! (Richard Pike)
> 8. 06:12 PM - Re: Oil injection cable (Richard Pike)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
> Time: 12:27:09 PM PST US
> From: Richard Girard aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> William, I had to load the picture into my photo editor to see what Eric's
> airplane really is. It is an Ultrastar all right, the boom comes from the
> wing junction with the engine below, but someone tacked a nose gear onto it
> ..
> Rick
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> m_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
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>
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:35 PM william sullivan williamtsullivan(at)att.net
> > wrote:
> > That is not an Ultrastar, it's one version of a Firestar. I can't tell an
> > y
> > more without looking at the wings.
> > Bill Sullivan
> > On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 01:23:26 PM EDT, Eric SOULET <
> > eric.soulet(at)diag-dechets.fr> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have an Ultrastar Kolb which is strongly punctual despite the trim ful
> > ly
> > The centering is at 29%.
> > I have to modify the incidence of the stabilizer.
> > On langing engine idling it even becomes dangerous.
> > Do you have any advice!
> > Cordialement
> > Eric SOULET
>
> --
> =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
> Groucho Marx
> http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
> Time: 12:36:23 PM PST US
> From: Richard Girard aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> Eric, What you have is someone's own ideas plastered on to something that
> looks like an Ultrastar. The biggest problem, concern, whatever, is the
> nose wheel. Second is the way your elevators are hanging from the
> horizontal stabilizer. You've got a real mess here.
> As for landing, the best advice I can give you is what I was given when I
> got my Mk III 14 years ago. Don't try to come in at idle, fly it on until
> you're used to how it lands. I made a video of landing the MK III you can
> find on Youtube at rick51076. It was intended for people transitioning
> from GA aircraft to the Kolb and dealt mostly with the difference using
> flaps make.
> Good luck, stay healthy, and blur skies,
> Rick
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>
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 8:50 PM JOSEPH WRIGHT mojavjoe(at)comcast.net wrote:
> > I suggest you cover the wing gap.
> > On March 29, 2020 at 4:12 PM Eric SOULET eric.soulet(at)diag-dechets.fr
> > wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have an Ultrastar Kolb which is strongly punctual despite the trim ful
> > ly
> > The centering is at 29%.
> > I have to modify the incidence of the stabilizer.
> > On langing engine idling it even becomes dangerous.
> > Do you have any advice!
> > Cordialement
> > Eric SOULET from France
>
> --
> =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
> Groucho Marx
> http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
> Time: 12:40:52 PM PST US
> From: william sullivan williamtsullivan(at)att.net
> Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> Huh. Thanks. I couldn't see that. Weird.
> do not archive
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2020, 03:27:22 PM EDT, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)
>
>
> gmail.com> wrote:
> William, I had to load the picture into my photo editor to see what Eric's
> airplane really is.=C2- It is an Ultrastar all right, the boom comes fro
> m the wing junction with the engine below, but someone tacked a nose gear o
> nto it.
> Rick
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> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:35 PM william sullivan williamtsullivan(at)att.net
> wrote:
> That is not an Ultrastar, it's one version of a Firestar. I can't tell any
> more without looking at the wings.
> Bill Sullivan
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 01:23:26 PM EDT, Eric SOULET <eric.soulet(at)d
>
>
> iag-dechets.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have an Ultrastar Kolb =C2-which is strongly punctual despite the trim
> fully
> The centering is at 29%.
> I have to modify the incidence of the stabilizer.
> On langing engine idling it even becomes dangerous.
> Do you have any advice!
> =C2-
> Cordialement
> =C2-
> Eric SOULET
> =C2-
> =C2-
> =C2-
> --
> =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
> =C2-=C2-Groucho Marx
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
> Time: 01:00:05 PM PST US
> From: Dan Ried mibear117(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Photo of oil injection cable
> Sent from my iPhone
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
> Time: 01:05:54 PM PST US
> From: B Young byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> Eric sent me a email off list. French English translator gave me this.
> Thank you for your interest in my message. I have 2 Ultrastar 1 purple and
> 1 blue. Purple flies very well see on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5ulWECN9dmA
> ,
> it has a stabilizer incidence adjustment: see purple stab. The blue is very
> pungent after the first flight I changed the incidence of the stabilizer:
> see blue stab. On the second flight of the blue, less but still stinging,
> see position of the depth trim: blue trim. So I checked the centering which
> is good 29%, see centering. I don=99t know if I=99m focusing fu
> rther back or
> changing the angle of the stabilizer again.
> Boyd Young
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
> Time: 04:00:42 PM PST US
> From: "Stuart Harner" stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
> Subject: RE: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> Doing a lot of reading between the lines here but my take is that the
> blue one is having pitch issues. If the 29% is a reference to the center
> of gravity being at 29% of wing cord, my guess is that his CG is too far
> forward. Probably due to the nose wheel?
> If this is correct, I can see him running out of elevator in a flair and
> wheel borrowing the nose gear on landing.
> Did I miss something?
> Stuart
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of B Young
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> Eric sent me a email off list. French English translator gave me this.
> Thank you for your interest in my message. I have 2 Ultrastar 1 purple
> and 1 blue. Purple flies very well see on YouTube:
> https://youtu.be/5ulWECN9dmA, it has a stabilizer incidence adjustment:
> see purple stab. The blue is very pungent after the first flight I
> changed the incidence of the stabilizer: see blue stab. On the second
> flight of the blue, less but still stinging, see position of the depth
> trim: blue trim. So I checked the centering which is good 29%, see
> centering. I don=99t know if I=99m focusing further back or
> changing the angle of the stabilizer again.
> Boyd Young
> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
> Time: 06:02:25 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Centering ULTRASTAR help!
> From: "Richard Pike" thegreybaron(at)charter.net
> In the video that was linked - https://youtu.be/5ulWECN9dmA - It is hard to tell
> from the video, but it appears that there is a very high ground speed before
> lifting off. It is also apparent that there is no gap seal. If the cg is at
> 29% and there is no gap seal, I am surprised that there is enough elevator authority
> to be able to land it at any speed.
> Friend Eric; install a gap seal over the center section of the wings and get rid
> of some of the weight in the front of the airplane.
>
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495486#495486
> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
> Time: 06:12:52 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Oil injection cable
> From: "Richard Pike" thegreybaron(at)charter.net
> If the end of your cable is bad, you can shorten it a bit as long as you shorten the cable sheath an equal amount. If I remember correctly, this fitting is a perfect fit and quite well made: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/wireswivels.php
> Azusa wire swivel part #2361, costs .80, plus $5 shipping...
>
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kolb Firefly Part 103 legal
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495487#495487
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