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 Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:37 pm Post subject: WD-1007-L |
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Anyone had any problems with the steps on the 10? After about 1400 hours and 12 years, the step folded downward as I began to enter the aircraft. Initial examination revealed 1/2 a bead across the top of the step, we will attempt to determine whether corrosion played a part. Upon examination of the new part the weld bead covers the entire top of the step but by visual inspection of the new part we found a size 40 hole in the internal section of the parts which could allow moisture into the step area. Other builders may want to examine the area between the step and the vertical attach piece for a good weld bead. We had no steppers on the step exceeding 200# and the estimated usage is about 2000 times usage. BTW, there is no plan provision to access the bolt that holds the step in place; therefore it is left to the builder to provide access or plan to cut a hole later if required..
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:34 pm Post subject: WD-1007-L |
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When I was building mine, which only has 100 hours on it so far, one of the steps had a poor weld joint across the top where it joins the horizontal tube that goes in the fuselage. This was discovered when I was cleaning up the weld to get them chromed. A friend repairs it with a Tig welder and I put flush inspection covers in the baggage area so I could install new ones it it was ever necessary. A friends late model steps were made of stainless steel so he just got them polished.
Robert Jones
| Quote: | On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:42 PM, dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone had any problems with the steps on the 10? After about 1400 hours and 12 years, the step folded downward as I began to enter the aircraft. Initial examination revealed 1/2 a bead across the top of the step, we will attempt to determine whether corrosion played a part. Upon examination of the new part the weld bead covers the entire top of the step but by visual inspection of the new part we found a size 40 hole in the internal section of the parts which could allow moisture into the step area. Other builders may want to examine the area between the step and the vertical attach piece for a good weld bead. We had no steppers on the step exceeding 200# and the estimated usage is about 2000 times usage. BTW, there is no plan provision to access the bolt that holds the step in place; therefore it is left to the builder to provide access or plan to cut a hole later if required..
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:04 pm Post subject: WD-1007-L |
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Are you saying that Vans now makes the steps from Stainless, or is there another source? | Quote: | | Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 |
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 4:39 PM Robert Jones <rjones560xl(at)gmail.com (rjones560xl(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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When I was building mine, which only has 100 hours on it so far, one of the steps had a poor weld joint across the top where it joins the horizontal tube that goes in the fuselage. This was discovered when I was cleaning up the weld to get them chromed. A friend repairs it with a Tig welder and I put flush inspection covers in the baggage area so I could install new ones it it was ever necessary. A friends late model steps were made of stainless steel so he just got them polished.
Robert Jones
> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:42 PM, dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com (dlm34077(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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> Anyone had any problems with the steps on the 10? After about 1400 hours and 12 years, the step folded downward as I began to enter the aircraft. Initial examination revealed 1/2 a bead across the top of the step, we will attempt to determine whether corrosion played a part. Upon examination of the new part the weld bead covers the entire top of the step but by visual inspection of the new part we found a size 40 hole in the internal section of the parts which could allow moisture into the step area. Other builders may want to examine the area between the step and the vertical attach piece for a good weld bead. We had no steppers on the step exceeding 200# and the estimated usage is about 2000 times usage. BTW, there is no plan provision to access the bolt that holds the step in place; therefore it is left to the builder to provide access or plan to cut a hole later if required..
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:19 pm Post subject: WD-1007-L |
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He ones my friend got were from Vans quite recently and the chrome shop identified the material as stainless steel and said they could not chrome them. They polished them. They were painted with some grey primer before we cleaned them up. I have no idea how long that has been going on.
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| Quote: | On Aug 29, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying that Vans now makes the steps from Stainless, or is there another source? | Quote: | | Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 |
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 4:39 PM Robert Jones <rjones560xl(at)gmail.com (rjones560xl(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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When I was building mine, which only has 100 hours on it so far, one of the steps had a poor weld joint across the top where it joins the horizontal tube that goes in the fuselage. This was discovered when I was cleaning up the weld to get them chromed. A friend repairs it with a Tig welder and I put flush inspection covers in the baggage area so I could install new ones it it was ever necessary. A friends late model steps were made of stainless steel so he just got them polished.
Robert Jones
> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:42 PM, dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com (dlm34077(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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> Anyone had any problems with the steps on the 10? After about 1400 hours and 12 years, the step folded downward as I began to enter the aircraft. Initial examination revealed 1/2 a bead across the top of the step, we will attempt to determine whether corrosion played a part. Upon examination of the new part the weld bead covers the entire top of the step but by visual inspection of the new part we found a size 40 hole in the internal section of the parts which could allow moisture into the step area. Other builders may want to examine the area between the step and the vertical attach piece for a good weld bead. We had no steppers on the step exceeding 200# and the estimated usage is about 2000 times usage. BTW, there is no plan provision to access the bolt that holds the step in place; therefore it is left to the builder to provide access or plan to cut a hole later if required..
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:58 am Post subject: WD-1007-L |
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The paint shop discovered a crack on the lower backside my pilot side step. I had another shipped to them from Vans to be painted and replaced it when I got home. During my build, I amended the original plans by installing the step bolt horizontally and then adding a 4" standard access plate with doubler on the floor above. I weigh 220 and had 450 hours on my RV10 when the crack was found. That said, I am quite certain our steps take quite a beating.... like during annual inspection when I place my foot on the step while carrying the pilot seat.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:56 am Post subject: WD-1007-L |
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Not flying yet, but I had a wiggle in one of the steps. I installed TCW’s step bushing and I was able to tighten the step enough to make it nice and Steady. Something to inspect on the conditional.
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The paint shop discovered a crack on the lower backside my pilot side step. I had another shipped to them from Vans to be painted and replaced it when I got home. During my build, I amended the original plans by installing the step bolt horizontally and then adding a 4" standard access plate with doubler on the floor above. I weigh 220 and had 450 hours on my RV10 when the crack was found. That said, I am quite certain our steps take quite a beating.... like during annual inspection when I place my foot on the step while carrying the pilot seat.
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