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l-fussell(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: Shop Ideas

Randy,



My Cherokee 180 had a small scoop in a position similar to the rv's that 

mated to a 1 inch scat tube which blew across the AV stack.  It bothered me 

so much flying in the rain that I eventually installed a fan and capped the 

intake. Ok, it never caused a problem but the Idea of rain being blown 

across my AV stack was more than I could stand. Something about Volts and 

H2O.

Regards,

Larry

RV-7A



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bill(at)repucci.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: Shop Ideas

Two other thoughts...



Put in some type of sound system and a beer fridge.



I found that without some type of background music, I tend to spend less

time in the shop.



The beer fridge is so it will be easy to talk your "friends" over to

help from time to time.  Oh, and keep a lock on it until after the task

at hand is finished.



Bill



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David Lee

Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Posts: 27
Location: GSO

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Shop Ideas

Plenty of light and the compressor(belt driven --oil filled) away from your work area. I put mind on the other side of a wall in a small storage shed attached to the garage. Plumbed with PVC pipe--480 PSI-- across the garage ceiling down to a distribution center where the filter and oiler are located. ran two lines with quick releases from here. You want one before the oiler and one after. Oil and paint don't mix very well!.



Negotiate with your wife on utilizing the whole two car garage or build a separate shop area. You will need the space. I am restricted to 1/2 of a two car and will be out space when the wings and fuselage arrive next week. Hope to have relief come spring or summer. Must get creative on the space tho!

Good luck,

David Lee

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billsettle(at)bellsouth.n
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: Shop Ideas

Congrats!  It only took me about 5 hours to inventory and organize my wing kit....  I'm within a couple of miles of you...  I live just off Hickory Tree Road in Merrifield, .7 mi from 150.  You're welcome anytime.



Bill.



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 From: "Carter Wright" <cartaire(at)hotmail.com>

 Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 06:32:22 EST

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Shop Ideas

 

 

 

 Bill-

 where are you building your RV-8 wings (I see WS by your signature line)

 

 ABF is delivering my RV-8 wings tomorrow!  I'm also in WS (off ebert near 

 clemmonsville Rd)

 

 I'd love to see your shop set up and progress.

 

 Carter Wright

 RV-8 ...   Wings!

 Winston Salem

 

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robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: Shop Ideas

Wow... remind me never to ask you think "long and deeply" on any  

subject!! <grin>

That's a lot of really excellent recommendations. Thanks Lee!



Robbie



On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:33 PM, lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com wrote:



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 Here's my list for what it's worth:



 1. Compressor:



   - Enclose if outside, make sure it has top cover

   - Easy access to the water drain (install on 4x4s so you can  

 reach under

 it)

   - Oil bath compressor

   - Water filter

   - Separate runs for air tools and paint guns

   - Manifold so you can run more than one air tool at a time



 2. Lights/electricity:

   - Figure out how many lights you need and then double that (no  

 kidding)

   - Flourescent, not incandescent

   - Lots of electrical plugs and a couple of multi-plugs (screw gun

 charger, sound system, drill bit sharpener, small refrigerator, drop

 lights, vacuum cleaner, etc.)

   - A couple of long extension cords

   - One work area with several plugs for band saw, belt grinder, drill

 press, other power tools



 3. Benches/Tables:

   - You will need more work benches and worktables than you think

   - Build out of solid core doors, find throwaways is you can. They  

 are

 very sturdy and importantly, they are very flat

   - Solid core doors over cheap kitchen drawer cabinets are great work

 benches, use simple 2x4s and solid core doors to make a worktable  

 or two



 4. Storage:

   - You will need a place for safe storage of parts before you  

 build, for

 finished parts as you build.  Pegs on the wall, or:

   - PVC pipe can be used to make a "forest" for vertical storage of

 ailerons, flaps. fin, h/s, etc



 5. Jigs/supports

   - Might want to consider having your builders build the jigs you  

 will

 require (this will depend upon which RV you are building and  

 whether you're

 doing a "quick build" or not, but with all their power tools they  

 can build

 a jig in half an hour that would take you all day.  Also, theirs is  

 likely

 to be square where yours may not be.

   - Same for a wing cradle (mine is a rollaround and it's great).  

 Gets the

 wings to wherever I need them including out of the way.

   - Saw horses: Have your builder make you at least 2-3 sets.



 6. Air hoses:  I really like the cheap black rubber hoses they have at

 Harbor Freight.  The coiled types and the colorful blue and yellow

 (vinyl??) ones get all balled up and catch on everything.  This is  

 a case

 of cheaper is better...they lie flat on the floor, don't coil up  

 badly and

 roll up easily on a wall roller (which I also recommend installing)

   - Air hose connectors:  Be careful when you buy these (Harbor  

 Freight)

 and get all the same type.  There are several styles with very small

 differences between them but they aren't interchangeable.  Some of  

 your

 tools will require male and some female, adaptors.  Heads up.



 7. Painting:  Even if you don't paint your airplane yourself, you will

 still need a place to grey prime/zinc chromate small parts.  Even  

 if it's

 only a phone booth sized, plastic enclosed booth, a paint area that  

 will

 help keep from getting overspray on everything else in your shop  

 would be

 useful.



 8. Cleanup:  You should consider provision(s) for occasional major  

 shop

 clean up.  Grinding, drilling, shaping, bandsawing, deburring, and

 fiberglass work, etc, makes more dust than you can imagine.   

 Getting as

 much of your gear off the floor as possible will be a great help with

 sweeping up/blowing out your shop.  Having a place to hang your  

 creeper(s),

 rollaround seats, to roll up your airhoses and extension cords, for  

 hanging

 your major parts on the wall, etc. will greatly facilitate a full  

 blown

 clean up.



 All I can think of for now!

 Lee...



 Lee Logan

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 Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation

 Savannah, Georgia

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