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brinker(at)cox-internet.c
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

Anyone fimiliar with the Zaon flight systems traffic avoidance system ? 

Looks promising and has a RS232 output which may make it compatible for 

showing traffic on a GRT.  And from what I've read it will pick up traffic 

pretty much anywhere in the USA.



Randy

weeav8ter(at)grandecom.ne
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

I haven't heard of the Zaon but I am installing the  Ryan TAS600 system, which also has RS232 that I can be run directly into the  Chelton units and the Garmin 480.

Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

An RS232 interface doesn't mean jack if whatever display you're using

doesn't support the particular format that is transmitted.



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brinker(at)cox-internet.c
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

������������  I can't justify spending 10k or so on a traffic system such as the Ryan. The  Zaon is about $1800. which can be found at http://www.zaonflight.com/�With  technology expanding by leaps and bounds I am holding out for a bit to see what  emerges next. I was leaning towards the Garmin modes S GTX330 but after learning  the FAA is fazing out mode S coverage and also only good when in mode S radar  coverage the Zaon XRX is looking appealing if it will do all it  claims.

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 Randy

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brinker(at)cox-internet.c
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

Contacted Zaon they are expanding they're interface database this 

year. Hopefully it will include GRT efis.



Randy



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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

Note that the Zaon is a passive system, relying on ground radar or on other TCAS-equipped aircraft to generate the “pings” that will bounce off target aircraft.� So if you’re too far from a ground radar, and there’s not an airliner with TCAS nearby, you might not see another aircraft because no one is interrogating his transponder.  

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Ryan TAS, on the other hand, is an active system that generates its own “pings” so it will detect anyone with a transponder, regardless of where you are.  

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker

 Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:02 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Zaon Traffic System  

  

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������������ I can't justify spending 10k or so on a traffic system such as the Ryan. The Zaon is about $1800. which can be found at http://www.zaonflight.com/�With technology expanding by leaps and bounds I am holding out for a bit to see what emerges next. I was leaning towards the Garmin modes S GTX330 but after learning the FAA is fazing out mode S coverage and also only good when in mode S radar coverage the Zaon XRX is looking appealing if it will do all it claims.  

    

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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

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It also looks like the Zaon uses altitude separation and range to prioritize threats (of which it can only show three at a time).  

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Ryan and other TSO’ed traffic sensors use “tau”, which is a computed time of closest approach of the target.� This allows, say, a Learjet that is further away from you, but closing at 450 knots, to be a higher-priority threat than a Piper Cub that is closer to you, but only moving at 90 knots . . .  

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker

 Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:02 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Zaon Traffic System  

  

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������������ I can't justify spending 10k or so on a traffic system such as the Ryan. The Zaon is about $1800. which can be found at http://www.zaonflight.com/�With technology expanding by leaps and bounds I am holding out for a bit to see what emerges next. I was leaning towards the Garmin modes S GTX330 but after learning the FAA is fazing out mode S coverage and also only good when in mode S radar coverage the Zaon XRX is looking appealing if it will do all it claims.  

    

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Randy  

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brinker(at)cox-internet.c
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

������������  Does'nt ground radar cover most all the continental US ? And as such would'nt  the passive system such as the Zaon be more capable than mode S ? 

 ����������� Still  trying to figure out all this active and passive thing. Pretty neat stuff and  truly mind boggling at the advancements being made.

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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

Brinker wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		                Does'nt ground radar cover most all the continental US ?

 And as such would'nt the passive system such as the Zaon be more

 capable than mode S ?

             Still trying to figure out all this active and passive

 thing. Pretty neat stuff and truly mind boggling at the advancements

 being made.

  


	




    Well, "it depends"...  

Ground radar does cover more area at present than mode S (aka TIS coverage).

However, in a lot of places, especially near hills, ground radar may only

go down to something like 5000 feet, so it does not have complete coverage,

especially down low near a lot of smaller airports, where you are more

likely

to really need the traffic avoidance.

As ADS-B makes it way into areas, eventually radar coverage will be

phased out, but we have quite a few years before that happens.  TIS already

has a phasing-out schedule, so IMHO it is already an outdated technology,

although you are likely to get at least another 10 years or so out of it

in most areas.



    Right now I'd guess a passive system that works off the reflected radar

signal would have more coverage overall than the TIS or ADS-B systems.

However, TIS and ADS-B are far more accurate in direction, distance, and

altitude. 



    Just put both in!  *grin*



-Dj

dwschaefer(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: Zaon Traffic System

I remember these guys from OSH.� They are going to use some proprietary format and initially only hook-up with the ANYWhere system.� The unit will be a built-in unit not the portable one.

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 Regards,

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 On 2/2/06, Tim Dawson-Townsend <Tdawson(at)avidyne.com (Tdawson(at)avidyne.com)> wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" < Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com (Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com)>

An RS232 interface doesn't mean jack if whatever display you're using

doesn't support the particular format that is transmitted.



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