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Steven Green

Joined: 05 Feb 2006
Posts: 118

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

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		   How do you safety a hose clamp?

 

 I have a multitude of hose clamps on my airplane, coolant, oil, and fuel 

 hoses.  None of them are safetied.  None have failed.

 

 What kind of hose clamp failed on your engine?  There are a multitude of 

 different makes and styles of hose clamps in use on airplanes, tractors, 

 trucks, cars, etc.

 

 john h

 mkIII

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

EXCELLENT !!! GREAT PICT... Joe N101HD

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Steven Green

Joined: 05 Feb 2006
Posts: 118

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

John,



Not on an aircraft engine.  I have had problems with some on oil cooler 

lines on VWs.  Probably poor quality clamps.



Steven

do not archive



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		   Hi Steven G:



 Thanks for the tip.



 Why did you safety the hose clamps?  Did you have a problem with one 

 loosening up?



 john h

 mkIII

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Steven Green

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

Why Not......    One more little idea that could help, instead of a lot of 

second guessing, and  would of ,should of could of. It's called prevention ! 

Great Idea . safety wired the easy one's yesterday,and the hard ones under 

the plane and against the fire wall today             Joe N101HD

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

> Why Not......    One more little idea that could help, instead of a lot 

of

 	  Quote: 	
		   second guessing, and  would of ,should of could of. It's called prevention 

 ! Great Idea . safety wired the easy one's yesterday,and the hard ones 

 under the plane and against the fire wall today             Joe N101HD


	


Joe:



Don't think anyone has established a requirement for safety wiring hose 

clamps.  I looked and turned up zilch.



Preventing the screw from backing out of the clamp is not the problem, when 

a hose pulls or is blown loose from a fitting.  Compression and shrinkage is 

the problem, which requires periodic retightening of the clamp and/or 

replacing the hose.



Please tell us about your firewall.  I don't have one.



john h

mkIII

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

Glad to tell you about my firewall it's just foward of my dash and my feet 

.It's really neat, and a good idea keep's the heat out of the cockpit,not to 

mention the bugs and rain, it also hold's the engine mount,AND that holes 

the engine that turns the little (68") blades in the front of the aieplane 

and makes it go, I don't know who thought  of it ,but it is a good idea just 

like safety wireing hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about  my fire 

wall ,If you don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures.       Joe 

Zenith 601HD

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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

har har, guess you stepped into that one John.....

This guy is from another universe.



I went to another fly in picnic today, breaking a record (for me)

Forecast to be windy, I brought along my ladyfriend for ballast  

(don't tell her that)

Ground speed to:  40mph, great event with a considerable variety of  

craft.

The folks there supplied chocks and bungees for gust locks and I  

parked tail to the wind.

Nice brisk but smooth ride back but a scary struggle on short final,  

bucking, dropping and climbing,

managing to stay out of the corn.



Think I'll stick to calmer air for a while.

BB

btw: ground speed return 90mph



On 17, Aug 2008, at 5:20 PM, Southern Reflections wrote:



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 <purplemoon99(at)bellsouth.net>



 Glad to tell you about my firewall it's just foward of my dash and  

 my feet .It's really neat, and a good idea keep's the heat out of  

 the cockpit,not to mention the bugs and rain, it also hold's the  

 engine mount,AND that holes the engine that turns the little (68")  

 blades in the front of the aieplane and makes it go, I don't know  

 who thought  of it ,but it is a good idea just like safety wireing  

 hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about  my fire wall ,If you  

 don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures.       Joe Zenith  

 601HD

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

I don't know who thought  of it ,but it is a good idea just

 	  Quote: 	
		   like safety wireing hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about  my fire 

 wall ,If you don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures.       Joe 

 Zenith 601HD


	




Joe:



Thanks for the info on fire walls.



Most of the aircraft I fly have the prop on top or the rear of the fuselage.



Still looking and waiting for someone to give me a requirement to safety 

wire hose clamps.



john h

mkIII

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

All in fun John.  I still like the safety wire idea.   Joe N101HD

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NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

I have had a bunch of other things work loose or crack on my airplane but 

never a hose clamp. I had a old cog belt redrive that was a pretty good 

shaker and tester of anything that could work loose and I never had a hose 

clamp work loose. Also if you get good hose I'm not sure one would come off 

a fitting even without a hose clamp. Have your ever tried to remove a good 

hose from a good fitting. It can't be done without making a slit in the 

hose. No.... take the time to safety all your bolts, exhaust system, carb 

boots etc. If you still NEED something to do go ahead and safety wire your 

clamps.



My $.02 worth



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: Hose Clamp Safety Wire

Also if you get good hose I'm not sure one would come off

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		   a fitting even without a hose clamp. Have your ever tried to remove a good 

 hose from a good fitting. It can't be done without making a slit in the 

 hose.

 Rick Neilsen


	




Rick N:



This last 912ULS uses clampless oil fittings.  Shove them on, after soaking 

in boiling water, with a lot of effort.  The blue oil line looks good and 

will require a utility knife to remove when the time comes.



john h

mkIII

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