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Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind the seats. The current models have the header tank located low behind the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower location?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: Header tank location |
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Pat-
For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope) resting
place for any water that might have found its way into the system. (I
have a filter in each line coming into this tank, and one after, to
catch any dirt.)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind the
seats. The current models have the header tank located low behind
the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower location?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Header tank location |
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Lynn C Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of the header? I was told that with the header lower C the chance of loosing pressure with low wing tank volume C you stand less of a chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
Pat Do not archive
| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Header tank location
Date: Thu C 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Pat-
For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope) resting
place for any water that might have found its way into the system. (I
have a filter in each line coming into this tank C and one after C to
catch any dirt.)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 27 C 2008 C at 11:44 PM C Pat Reilly wrote:
> Kitfoxers C My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind the
> seats. The current models have the header tank located low behind
> the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower location?
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Header tank location |
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Yes, Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called, and I use it to
sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever finding any.
It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are just
another source of leaks, and that the drain in the low-mounted header
tank serves the same purpose. In fact, it serves a better
purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the system between
the wing tanks and the header tank.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of the
header? I was told that with the header lower, the chance of
loosing pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand less of a
chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the
firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
Pat Do not archive
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Header tank location
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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>
> Pat-
>
> For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope) resting
> place for any water that might have found its way into the
system. (I
> have a filter in each line coming into this tank, and one after, to
> catch any dirt.)
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
>
> > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind the
> > seats. The current models have the header tank located low behind
> > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
location?
> >
> > Pat Reilly
> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > Rockf
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Header tank location |
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Lynn C Where is the drain located and access point. If I move my tank to the lower position or get a new one C a sump drain sounds like a great idea.
Do not archive
Pat
| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
Date: Thu C 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com; patreilly43(at)hotmail.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Yes C Pat C I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called C and I use it to
sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever finding any.
It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are just
another source of leaks C and that the drain in the low-mounted header
tank serves the same purpose. In fact C it serves a better
purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the system between
the wing tanks and the header tank.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 28 C 2008 C at 6:12 PM C patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn C Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of the
> header? I was told that with the header lower C the chance of
> loosing pressure with low wing tank volume C you stand less of a
> chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the
> firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
>
> Pat Do not archive
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > Date: Thu C 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > Pat-
> >
> > For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope) resting
> > place for any water that might have found its way into the
> system. (I
> > have a filter in each line coming into this tank C and one after C to
> > catch any dirt.)
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
> > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 27 C 2008 C at 11:44 PM C Pat Reilly wrote:
> >
> > > Kitfoxers C My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind the
> > > seats. The current models have the header tank located low behind
> > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> location?
> > >
> > > Pat Reilly
> > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > > Rockf
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: Header tank location |
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The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a
"sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the tank dips
down to the drain, unlike the wing tank drain locations, which look
like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel outlet is about 1"
at least above this location, so you have a large capacity for gunk
to locate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel
outlet hole.
I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric
surface, then reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a
plastic ring around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to
the fabric.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, Where is the drain located and access point. If I move my
tank to the lower position or get a new one, a sump drain sounds
like a great idea.
Do not archive
Pat
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Header tank location
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com; patreilly43(at)hotmail.com
>
>
>
> Yes, Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called, and I use it to
> sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever finding any.
> It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are just
> another source of leaks, and that the drain in the low-mounted
header
> tank serves the same purpose. In fact, it serves a better
> purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the system
between
> the wing tanks and the header tank.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
> > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of
the
> > header? I was told that with the header lower, the chance of
> > loosing pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand less of a
> > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the
> > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
> >
> > Pat Do not archive
> >
> > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > >
> > >
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > >
> > > Pat-
> > >
> > > For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope)
resting
> > > place for any water that might have found its way into the
> > system. (I
> > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank, and one
after, to
> > > catch any dirt.)
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind
the
> > > > seats. The current models have the header tank located low
behind
> > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> > location?
> > > >
> > > > Pat Reilly
> > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > > > Rockf
> > > > ===========
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> > > > =================================== _-
> > > > contribution_-
> > > > ================================>
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > =================================== _-
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> > ===================================
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Header tank location |
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Lynn C Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where did you get it? Did you install the sump drain in the tank C or was it in the tank when you bought it?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford C IL
| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Header tank location
Date: Fri C 29 Aug 2008 07:04:29 -0400
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank C and is a
"sensible drain" in my opinion...that is C the floor of the tank dips
down to the drain C unlike the wing tank drain locations C which look
like they dip down but they don't. Also C the fuel outlet is about 1"
at least above this location C so you have a large capacity for gunk
to locate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel
outlet hole.
I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric
surface C then reinforced the fabric around the hole C and used a
plastic ring around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to
the fabric.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 28 C 2008 C at 11:00 PM C patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn C Where is the drain located and access point. If I move my
> tank to the lower position or get a new one C a sump drain sounds
> like a great idea.
> Do not archive
>
> Pat
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > Date: Thu C 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com; patreilly43(at)hotmail.com
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > Yes C Pat C I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called C and I use it to
> > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever finding any.
> > It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are just
> > another source of leaks C and that the drain in the low-mounted
> header
> > tank serves the same purpose. In fact C it serves a better
> > purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the system
> between
> > the wing tanks and the header tank.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
> > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 28 C 2008 C at 6:12 PM C patrick reilly wrote:
> >
> > > Lynn C Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of
> the
> > > header? I was told that with the header lower C the chance of
> > > loosing pressure with low wing tank volume C you stand less of a
> > > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the
> > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
> > >
> > > Pat Do not archive
> > >
> > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
> > > > Date: Thu C 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> > > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > > >
> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > > >
> > > > Pat-
> > > >
> > > > For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope)
> resting
> > > > place for any water that might have found its way into the
> > > system. (I
> > > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank C and one
> after C to
> > > > catch any dirt.)
> > > >
> > > > Lynn Matteson
> > > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > > Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > > Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
> > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 27 C 2008 C at 11:44 PM C Pat Reilly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Kitfoxers C My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind
> the
> > > > > seats. The current models have the header tank located low
> behind
> > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> > > location?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat Reilly
> > > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > > > > Rockf
> > > > > ===========
> > > > > forums.matronics.com_-
> > > > > =================================== _-
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> > > > > ================================>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: Header tank location |
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Deke was kind enough to send it my way in exchange for some future
consideration....next-born son or something like that. : )
It's a Kitfox tank, made of some kind of cast plastic, with brass
bungs cast right in for all the fittings. My old tank was rectangular
all the way, but this new one is designed to be located right behind
the seat, and to that end has a slope on the upper forward surface to
clear the slope of the seat back.
On second thought, maybe I'm imagining those brass bungs being cast
in....better score me as not being sure of that feature. I know the
one on the side of the tank, like where you'd put an optical low-fuel
sender is a just plain threaded hole...plenty of beef, though.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:39 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where did you get it?
Did you install the sump drain in the tank, or was it in the tank
when you bought it?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Header tank location
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:04:29 -0400
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
>
> The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a
> "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the tank dips
> down to the drain, unlike the wing tank drain locations, which look
> like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel outlet is about 1"
> at least above this location, so you have a large capacity for gunk
> to locate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel
> outlet hole.
> I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric
> surface, then reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a
> plastic ring around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to
> the fabric.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
> > Lynn, Where is the drain located and access point. If I move my
> > tank to the lower position or get a new one, a sump drain sounds
> > like a great idea.
> > Do not archive
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
> > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com; patreilly43(at)hotmail.com
> > >
> > >
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > >
> > > Yes, Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called, and I
use it to
> > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever
finding any.
> > > It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are just
> > > another source of leaks, and that the drain in the low-mounted
> > header
> > > tank serves the same purpose. In fact, it serves a better
> > > purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the system
> > between
> > > the wing tanks and the header tank.
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the
bottom of
> > the
> > > > header? I was told that with the header lower, the chance of
> > > > loosing pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand less
of a
> > > > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the
> > > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
> > > >
> > > > Pat Do not archive
> > > >
> > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> > > > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat-
> > > > >
> > > > > For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope)
> > resting
> > > > > place for any water that might have found its way into the
> > > > system. (I
> > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank, and one
> > after, to
> > > > > catch any dirt.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn Matteson
> > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank located high
behind
> > the
> > > > > > seats. The current models have the header tank located low
> > behind
> > > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> > > > location?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pat Reilly
> > > > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
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Pat,
I have an extra header tank, just like the one Lynn describes. I bought it from Skystar about 5 years ago when my original tank developed a slow leak around one of the brass fittings. Before it arrived, I managed to cure the problem and it's been fine ever since. If you need it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.
BYT: The "sump" drain in my Mod 2 is tee'd into the bottom hole of the header. The other side of the T goes to the engine. Drain line is 3/8" poly with in-line hardware store brass ball valve, leading to a fitting on the right side belly under back of passenger seat. The belly drain fitting is attached through the fabric to a flush aluminum bracket for reinforcement. Drain fitting is barbed on inside and has NPT threads on outside so that I can attach a removeable, external drain line. Makes it easy to quickly drain fuel into jerry cans after each flight. I also have a superfluous gascolator which I have left in as the last line of defense before fuel gets to engine.
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
| Quote: | From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: Header tank location
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 2:39 PM
| Quote: | --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Deke was kind enough to send it my way in exchange for some future
consideration....next-born son or something like that. : )
It's a Kitfox tank, made of some kind of cast plastic, with brass
bungs cast right in for all the fittings. My old tank was rectangular
all the way, but this new one is designed to be located right behind
the seat, and to that end has a slope on the upper forward surface to
clear the slope of the seat back.
On second thought, maybe I'm imagining those brass bungs being cast
in....better score me as not being sure of that feature. I know the
one on the side of the tank, like where you'd put an optical low-fuel
sender is a just plain threaded hole...plenty of beef, though.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:39 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where did you get it?
Did you install the sump drain in the tank, or was it in the tank
when you bought it?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Header tank location
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:04:29 -0400
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
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| Quote: | >
> The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a
> "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the
tank dips
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| Quote: | > down to the drain, unlike the wing tank drain locations, which look
> like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel outlet is about
1"
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| Quote: | > at least above this location, so you have a large capacity for gunk
> to locate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel
> outlet hole.
> I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric
> surface, then reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a
> plastic ring around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to
> the fabric.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
> > Lynn, Where is the drain located and access point. If I move my
> > tank to the lower position or get a new one, a sump drain sounds
> > like a great idea.
> > Do not archive
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
> > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com; patreilly43(at)hotmail.com
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > >
> > > Yes, Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's
called, and I
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| Quote: | use it to
> > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever
finding any.
> > > It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are
just
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| Quote: | > > > another source of leaks, and that the drain in the
low-mounted
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| Quote: | > > header
> > > tank serves the same purpose. In fact, it serves a better
> > > purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the
system
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| Quote: | > > between
> > > the wing tanks and the header tank.
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to
try." (Pink
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| Quote: | > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the
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| Quote: | bottom of
> > the
> > > > header? I was told that with the header lower, the
chance of
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| Quote: | > > > > loosing pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand
less
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| Quote: | of a
> > > > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator
on the
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| Quote: | > > > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
> > > >
> > > > Pat Do not archive
> > > >
> > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> > > > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn
Matteson
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| Quote: | > > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat-
> > > > >
> > > > > For me it serves as a
"gascolator".....the final (I hope)
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| Quote: | > > resting
> > > > > place for any water that might have found its way
into the
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| Quote: | > > > > system. (I
> > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank,
and one
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| Quote: | > > after, to
> > > > > catch any dirt.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn Matteson
> > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined
to try." (Pink
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| Quote: | > > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank
located high
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| Quote: | behind
> > the
> > > > > > seats. The current models have the header
tank located low
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| Quote: | > > behind
> > > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to
the new lower
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| Quote: | > > > > location?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pat Reilly
> > > > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > > > > > Rockf
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There ya go, Pat....are these Northern Lower Michiganders great
folks, or what? First Deke, and now Marco....
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
| Quote: | Pat,
I have an extra header tank, just like the one Lynn describes. I
bought it from Skystar about 5 years ago when my original tank
developed a slow leak around one of the brass fittings. Before it
arrived, I managed to cure the problem and it's been fine ever
since. If you need it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.
BYT: The "sump" drain in my Mod 2 is tee'd into the bottom hole of
the header. The other side of the T goes to the engine. Drain line
is 3/8" poly with in-line hardware store brass ball valve, leading
to a fitting on the right side belly under back of passenger seat.
The belly drain fitting is attached through the fabric to a flush
aluminum bracket for reinforcement. Drain fitting is barbed on
inside and has NPT threads on outside so that I can attach a
removeable, external drain line. Makes it easy to quickly drain
fuel into jerry cans after each flight. I also have a superfluous
gascolator which I have left in as the last line of defense before
fuel gets to engine.
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: Header tank location
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 2:39 PM
Deke was kind enough to send it my way in exchange for some future
consideration....next-born son or something like that. : ) It's a
Kitfox tank, made of some kind of cast plastic, with brass bungs
cast right in for all the fittings. My old tank was rectangular all
the way, but this new one is designed to be located right behind
the seat, and to that end has a slope on the upper forward surface
to clear the slope of the seat back. On second thought, maybe I'm
imagining those brass bungs being cast in....better score me as not
being sure of that feature. I know the one on the side of the tank,
like where you'd put an optical low-fuel sender is a just plain
threaded hole...plenty of beef, though. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV
Speedster Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs Status:
"Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly") On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:39 PM, patrick
reilly wrote: > Lynn, Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where
did you get it? > Did you install the sump drain in the tank, or
was it in the tank > when you bought it? > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582
Rebuild > Rockford, IL > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net > > Subject:
Re: Header tank location > > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008
07:04:29 -0400 > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com > > > > --> Kitfox-
List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > >
The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a
> > "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the tank
dips > > down to the drain, unlike the wing tank drain locations,
which look > > like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel
outlet is about 1" > > at least above this location, so you have a
large capacity for gunk > > to locate before it EVER would get high
enough to go out the fuel > > outlet hole. > > I set my tank up so
that the quick drain is right at the fabric > > surface, then
reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a > > plastic ring
around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to > > the
fabric. > > > > Lynn Matteson > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > Jabiru
2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs > > Status: "Condition
grounded, but determined to try." (Pink > > Floyd..."Learning to
Fly") > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM, patrick
reilly wrote: > > > > > Lynn, Where is the drain located and access
point. If I move my > > > tank to the lower position or get a new
one, a sump drain sounds > > > like a great idea. > > > Do not
archive > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net > > >
> Subject: Re: Header tank location > > > > Date: Thu,
28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400 > > > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com;
patreilly43(at)hotmail.com > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message
posted by: Lynn Matteson > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > > > > > > Yes,
Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called, and I > use it to >
> > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever >
finding any. > > > > It was suggested here that the drains in the
wing tanks are just > > > > another source of leaks, and that the
drain in the low-mounted > > > header > > > > tank serves the same
purpose. In fact, it serves a better > > > > purpose...it gets any
moisture that might get into the system > > > between > > > > the
wing tanks and the header tank. > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > >
> Kitfox IV Speedster > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for
repairs > > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to
try." (Pink > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick
reilly wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you
have a drain on the > bottom of > > > the > > > > > header? I was
told that with the header lower, the chance of > > > > > loosing
pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand less > of a > > > > >
chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the > > >
> > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582. > > > > > > > > >
> Pat Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Header tank location > > > > >
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400 > > > > > > To: kitfox-
list(at)matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message
posted by: Lynn Matteson > > > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > > > > > > >
> > > Pat- > > > > > > > > > > > > For me it serves as a
"gascolator".....the final (I hope) > > > resting > > > > > > place
for any water that might have found its way into the > > > > >
system. (I > > > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this
tank, and one > > > after, to > > > > > > catch any dirt.) > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > >
> > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs > > > > > >
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink > > > >
> > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly
wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header
tank located high > behind > > > the > > > > > > > seats. The
current models have the header tank located low > > > behind > > >
> > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> > > > > location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat Reilly > > > >
> > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > > > > > > > Rockf > > > > > > >
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Lynn C You guys are great! The next time I see you or Marco or meet Deke ( I did buy a compass from Deke and he sent me pictures of a dyamite set of home built skis I'm going to copy) I could just kiss you. But C I'd rather buy you a beer though.
Do not archive
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Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford C IL
| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Header tank location
Date: Sat C 30 Aug 2008 20:12:30 -0400
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
There ya go C Pat....are these Northern Lower Michiganders great
folks C or what? First Deke C and now Marco....
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 30 C 2008 C at 7:13 PM C Marco Menezes wrote:
> Pat C
>
> I have an extra header tank C just like the one Lynn describes. I
> bought it from Skystar about 5 years ago when my original tank
> developed a slow leak around one of the brass fittings. Before it
> arrived C I managed to cure the problem and it's been fine ever
> since. If you need it C it's yours for the cost of shipping.
>
> BYT: The "sump" drain in my Mod 2 is tee'd into the bottom hole of
> the header. The other side of the T goes to the engine. Drain line
> is 3/8" poly with in-line hardware store brass ball valve C leading
> to a fitting on the right side belly under back of passenger seat.
> The belly drain fitting is attached through the fabric to a flush
> aluminum bracket for reinforcement. Drain fitting is barbed on
> inside and has NPT threads on outside so that I can attach a
> removeable C external drain line. Makes it easy to quickly drain
> fuel into jerry cans after each flight. I also have a superfluous
> gascolator which I have left in as the last line of defense before
> fuel gets to engine.
>
> Marco Menezes N99KX
> Model 2 582-90 C-Box
>
> --- On Sat C 8/30/08 C Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> Subject: Re: Header tank location
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Saturday C August 30 C 2008 C 2:39 PM
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> Deke was kind enough to send it my way in exchange for some future
> consideration....next-born son or something like that. : ) It's a
> Kitfox tank C made of some kind of cast plastic C with brass bungs
> cast right in for all the fittings. My old tank was rectangular all
> the way C but this new one is designed to be located right behind
> the seat C and to that end has a slope on the upper forward surface
> to clear the slope of the seat back. On second thought C maybe I'm
> imagining those brass bungs being cast in....better score me as not
> being sure of that feature. I know the one on the side of the tank C
> like where you'd put an optical low-fuel sender is a just plain
> threaded hole...plenty of beef C though. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV
> Speedster Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs Status:
> "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink
> Floyd..."Learning to Fly") On Aug 29 C 2008 C at 11:39 PM C patrick
> reilly wrote: > Lynn C Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where
> did you get it? > Did you install the sump drain in the tank C or
> was it in the tank > when you bought it? > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 582
> Rebuild > Rockford C IL > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net > > Subject:
> Re: Header tank location > > Date: Fri C 29 Aug 2008
> 07:04:29 -0400 > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com > > > > --> Kitfox-
> List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > >
> The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank C and is a
> > > "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is C the floor of the tank
> dips > > down to the drain C unlike the wing tank drain locations C
> which look > > like they dip down but they don't. Also C the fuel
> outlet is about 1" > > at least above this location C so you have a
> large capacity for gunk > > to locate before it EVER would get high
> enough to go out the fuel > > outlet hole. > > I set my tank up so
> that the quick drain is right at the fabric > > surface C then
> reinforced the fabric around the hole C and used a > > plastic ring
> around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to > > the
> fabric. > > > > Lynn Matteson > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > Jabiru
> 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs > > Status: "Condition
> grounded C but determined to try." (Pink > > Floyd..."Learning to
> Fly") > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28 C 2008 C at 11:00 PM C patrick
> reilly wrote: > > > > > Lynn C Where is the drain located and access
> point. If I move my > > > tank to the lower position or get a new
> one C a sump drain sounds > > > like a great idea. > > > Do not
> archive > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net > > >
> > Subject: Re: Header tank location > > > > Date: Thu C
> 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400 > > > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com;
> patreilly43(at)hotmail.com > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message
> posted by: Lynn Matteson > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > > > > > > Yes C
> Pat C I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called C and I > use it to >
> > > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever >
> finding any. > > > > It was suggested here that the drains in the
> wing tanks are just > > > > another source of leaks C and that the
> drain in the low-mounted > > > header > > > > tank serves the same
> purpose. In fact C it serves a better > > > > purpose...it gets any
> moisture that might get into the system > > > between > > > > the
> wing tanks and the header tank. > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > >
> > Kitfox IV Speedster > > > > Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for
> repairs > > > > Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to
> try." (Pink > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28 C 2008 C at 6:12 PM C patrick
> reilly wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lynn C Thanks for the info. Do you
> have a drain on the > bottom of > > > the > > > > > header? I was
> told that with the header lower C the chance of > > > > > loosing
> pressure with low wing tank volume C you stand less > of a > > > > >
> chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the > > >
> > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582. > > > > > > > > >
> > Pat Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Header tank location > > > > >
> > Date: Thu C 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400 > > > > > > To: kitfox-
> list(at)matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message
> posted by: Lynn Matteson > > > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Pat- > > > > > > > > > > > > For me it serves as a
> "gascolator".....the final (I hope) > > > resting > > > > > > place
> for any water that might have found its way into the > > > > >
> system. (I > > > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this
> tank C and one > > > after C to > > > > > > catch any dirt.) > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > >
> > > > Jabiru 2200 C 562 hrs and holding for repairs > > > > > >
> Status: "Condition grounded C but determined to try." (Pink > > > >
> > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 27 C 2008 C at 11:44 PM C Pat Reilly
> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitfoxers C My mod 3 has the header
> tank located high > behind > > > the > > > > > > > seats. The
> current models have the header tank located low > > > behind > > >
> > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> > > > > > location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat Reilly > > > >
> > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > > > > > > > Rockf > > > > > > >
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Lynn Matteson
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Yeah, the beer will do just fine, thanks.....I'm still recoiling from
when I answered one of my flight instructor's questions correctly,
and he said "great, I could kiss you right on the lips".....Oh,
that's ok, Brian, a simple "you pass the test" will do, thank
you. : ) Now if my flight instructor had been Patty Wagstaff..........
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 31, 2008, at 12:32 AM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, You guys are great! The next time I see you or Marco or meet
Deke ( I did buy a compass from Deke and he sent me pictures of a
dyamite set of home built skis I'm going to copy) I could just kiss
you. But, I'd rather buy you a beer though.
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Header tank location
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:12:30 -0400
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
>
> There ya go, Pat....are these Northern Lower Michiganders great
> folks, or what? First Deke, and now Marco....
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
>
> > Pat,
> >
> > I have an extra header tank, just like the one Lynn describes. I
> > bought it from Skystar about 5 years ago when my original tank
> > developed a slow leak around one of the brass fittings. Before it
> > arrived, I managed to cure the problem and it's been fine ever
> > since. If you need it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.
> >
> > BYT: The "sump" drain in my Mod 2 is tee'd into the bottom hole of
> > the header. The other side of the T goes to the engine. Drain line
> > is 3/8" poly with in-line hardware store brass ball valve, leading
> > to a fitting on the right side belly under back of passenger seat.
> > The belly drain fitting is attached through the fabric to a flush
> > aluminum bracket for reinforcement. Drain fitting is barbed on
> > inside and has NPT threads on outside so that I can attach a
> > removeable, external drain line. Makes it easy to quickly drain
> > fuel into jerry cans after each flight. I also have a superfluous
> > gascolator which I have left in as the last line of defense before
> > fuel gets to engine.
> >
> > Marco Menezes N99KX
> > Model 2 582-90 C-Box
> >
> > --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
> > From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > Subject: Re: Header tank location
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 2:39 PM
> >
> >
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > Deke was kind enough to send it my way in exchange for some future
> > consideration....next-born son or something like that. : ) It's a
> > Kitfox tank, made of some kind of cast plastic, with brass bungs
> > cast right in for all the fittings. My old tank was rectangular
all
> > the way, but this new one is designed to be located right behind
> > the seat, and to that end has a slope on the upper forward surface
> > to clear the slope of the seat back. On second thought, maybe I'm
> > imagining those brass bungs being cast in....better score me as
not
> > being sure of that feature. I know the one on the side of the
tank,
> > like where you'd put an optical low-fuel sender is a just plain
> > threaded hole...plenty of beef, though. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV
> > Speedster Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs Status:
> > "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:39 PM, patrick
> > reilly wrote: > Lynn, Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where
> > did you get it? > Did you install the sump drain in the tank, or
> > was it in the tank > when you bought it? > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3
582
> > Rebuild > Rockford, IL > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net > > Subject:
> > Re: Header tank location > > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008
> > 07:04:29 -0400 > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com > > > > -->
Kitfox-
> > List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > >
> > The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a
> > > > "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the
tank
> > dips > > down to the drain, unlike the wing tank drain locations,
> > which look > > like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel
> > outlet is about 1" > > at least above this location, so you have a
> > large capacity for gunk > > to locate before it EVER would get
high
> > enough to go out the fuel > > outlet hole. > > I set my tank up so
> > that the quick drain is right at the fabric > > surface, then
> > reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a > > plastic ring
> > around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to > > the
> > fabric. > > > > Lynn Matteson > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > Jabiru
> > 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs > > Status: "Condition
> > grounded, but determined to try." (Pink > > Floyd..."Learning to
> > Fly") > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM,
patrick
> > reilly wrote: > > > > > Lynn, Where is the drain located and
access
> > point. If I move my > > > tank to the lower position or get a new
> > one, a sump drain sounds > > > like a great idea. > > > Do not
> > archive > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net > > >
> > > Subject: Re: Header tank location > > > > Date:
Thu,
> > 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400 > > > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com;
> > patreilly43(at)hotmail.com > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message
> > posted by: Lynn Matteson > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > > > > > > Yes,
> > Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called, and I > use it
to >
> > > > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever >
> > finding any. > > > > It was suggested here that the drains in the
> > wing tanks are just > > > > another source of leaks, and that the
> > drain in the low-mounted > > > header > > > > tank serves the same
> > purpose. In fact, it serves a better > > > > purpose...it gets any
> > moisture that might get into the system > > > between > > > > the
> > wing tanks and the header tank. > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson >
> >
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for
> > repairs > > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to
> > try." (Pink > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick
> > reilly wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you
> > have a drain on the > bottom of > > > the > > > > > header? I was
> > told that with the header lower, the chance of > > > > > loosing
> > pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand less > of a > > >
> >
> > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the > > >
> > > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582. > > > > > > >
> >
> > > Pat Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > From:
lynnmatt(at)jps.net >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Header tank location > > > > >
> > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400 > > > > > > To: kitfox-
> > list(at)matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message
> > posted by: Lynn Matteson > > > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > Pat- > > > > > > > > > > > > For me it serves as a
> > "gascolator".....the final (I hope) > > > resting > > > > > >
place
> > for any water that might have found its way into the > > > > >
> > system. (I > > > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this
> > tank, and one > > > after, to > > > > > > catch any dirt.) > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster >
> >
> > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs > > > > > >
> > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink > > > >
> > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly
> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the
header
> > tank located high > behind > > > the > > > > > > > seats. The
> > current models have the header tank located low > > > behind > > >
> > > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
> > > > > > > location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat Reilly > > > >
> > > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild > > > > > > > Rockf > > > > > > >
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Marco,
Do you still have the header tank? I need one.
Jay C.
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