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bob88
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 Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: Static system |
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Has anyone come up with a good way to attach the 1/8 tubing to the rivet Van's recommends for a static port? The Van's suggestion of using RTV sealant does not seem to be secure enough.
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mdaniell
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: Re: Static system |
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Many people seem to be happy with the Vans solution. Another option is offered by Cleaveland Tool(and others). The Cleaveland solution appears to have the same profile as the Vans rivet. Static port design seems to stimulate discussion on the scale of the Primer Wars, you might like to search for other posts on the subject.
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 4:56 am Post subject: Static system |
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Well, given that airframe, engine and avionics/panel average out to near equal thirds, depending on how much priority you put in each, most figure on spending around $150K or more on a -10, and you are going to rely on a couple pop rivets for everything that depends on static system? Really goes to Van's viewpoint that all their products are for day VFR leisure trips, only.
That may start some discussion. 
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Many people seem to be happy with the Vans solution. Another option is offered by Cleaveland Tool(and others). The Cleaveland solution appears to have the same profile as the Vans rivet. Static port design seems to stimulate discussion on the scale of the Primer Wars, you might like to search for other posts on the subject.
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bill.peyton
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Static system |
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Couldn't agree more Kelly. I used the ones sold by Avery tool, I believe they are actually safe-air1. My air speeds are within a knot of being spot on.
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:48 am Post subject: Static system |
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But - a simple design that works is hard to beat. I solved a static error on my first plane created by "very nicely machined commercial static ports" and used the same approach on the RV-10. No static error. Below is what I posted on this awhile back.
Carl
I used a couple of 3/16” AN470 rivets with a 1/16” hole drilled through the head and the rivet shank. I made a 1" diameter x 1/4" thick aluminum ring (disc with a 3/16" hole drill in the center) as a backing plate to the rivet. The round rivet head sits on the outside of the skin (3/16" hole in the skin). The 1" diameter, 1/4" thick backing plate (with a 3/16" hole in the middle) is epoxied over the rivet shank to the inside of the skin. The protruding rivet head moves the static port just a little out of the skin flow layer - this is what helps mitigate against static port error. The backing plate just adds some rigidity to the install and more glue area for the rivet. This provides a sturdy connection to RTV on the 1/4" static tubing. The 3/16" rivet shack is a perfect fit for 1/4" tubing to slide over. No fittings required or desired.
Get a dozen or so of the rivets as it takes a couple of tries to get the hole drill right in the center of the shank. You want a rivet shank an inch or so long.
I did final paint over the rivet heads with a toothpick in the 1/16" holes to keep them open.
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Well, given that airframe, engine and avionics/panel average out to near equal thirds, depending on how much priority you put in each, most figure on spending around $150K or more on a -10, and you are going to rely on a couple pop rivets for everything that depends on static system? Really goes to Van's viewpoint that all their products are for day VFR leisure trips, only.
That may start some discussion.
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Many people seem to be happy with the Vans solution. Another option is offered by Cleaveland Tool(and others). The Cleaveland solution appears to have the same profile as the Vans rivet. Static port design seems to stimulate discussion on the scale of the Primer Wars, you might like to search for other posts on the subject.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401372#401372
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