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GLJSOJ1

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 82
Location: Chesapeake, Virginia

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

My 601XL is getting ready for inspection nest weekend and I can't find or figure out how to seal the canopy at the side rails.  My problem is that I have a 3/4 inch gap there. I have looked at weatherstripping, garage door seal, ACS catalog, auto shops, door seals. Unless someone has a better idea I plan to get s 3/4 to 1 inch thick sheet of closed cell-foam and cut strips to glue to the bottom of each rail.  The thickest door seal I have found is 1/2 inch.  



Thanks

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

Have you considered stacking weather strip on top of more weather 

strip?  Also you might stick some to the canopy and some to the rail.



Paul

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At 06:45 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote:

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		  My 601XL is getting ready for inspection nest weekend and I can't 

find or figure out how to seal the canopy at the side rails.  My 

problem is that I have a 3/4 inch gap there. I have looked at 

weatherstripping, garage door seal, ACS catalog, auto shops, door 

seals. Unless someone has a better idea I plan to get s 3/4 to 1 

inch thick sheet of closed cell-foam and cut strips to glue to the 

bottom of each rail.  The thickest door seal I have found is 1/2 inch.



Thanks

MHerder

Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: CANOPY SEALING?

Im planning on using some automotive weather stripping so that it is durable.  There are places online that have tons of different shapes and thicknesses.



Ive got 1/2" on one side 3/8" on the other.

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

The problem with putting foam under the canopy rails is that the stuff  

tends to get really stiff in cold weather. It gets hard to compress  

under the rail, making it difficult to fully latch the canopy. I ended  

up attaching a foam strip to the inside of the canopy rail that  

extends down to make contact with the bottom frame. As I recall, it's  

a garage door bottom seal made of foam rubber about two inches wide  

with the bottom 1/4 inch angled about 45 degrees. When I close the  

canopy, the bottom edge bends inward instead of compressing, causing  

less resistance to closing the canopy. I only have about 3/8ths of an  

inch of gap to seal, so I trimmed top edge of the foam to just cover  

the double sided tape I used to attach it. I can check to see if I  

still have the packaging so I can get a brand and part number of the  

product. As I recall, I bought it at Home depot.



On May 17, 2009, at 9:45 PM, GLJSOJ1 wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   My 601XL is getting ready for inspection nest weekend and I can't  

 find or figure out how to seal the canopy at the side rails.  My  

 problem is that I have a 3/4 inch gap there. I have looked at  

 weatherstripping, garage door seal, ACS catalog, auto shops, door  

 seals. Unless someone has a better idea I plan to get s 3/4 to 1  

 inch thick sheet of closed cell-foam and cut strips to glue to the  

 bottom of each rail.  The thickest door seal I have found is 1/2 inch.


	




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N61BM, CH 601 XL,

RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

The low pressure above the wing causes air to leak OUT of the cabin  

under the canopy rails. So a flexible strip applied to the inside of  

the canopy rail will tend to get pushed into the gap to help seal it.



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 My 601XL is getting ready for inspection nest weekend and I can't  

 find or figure out how to seal the canopy at the side rails.


	




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Bryan Martin

N61BM, CH 601 XL,

RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.

do not archive.

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tshankland(at)sbcglobal.n
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:12 am Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

Check out McMaster-Carr, http://www.mcmaster.com. They have an large 

assortment of seals. I used the Rubber Bulb seal and they can be bought 

adhesive backed.



Tim

N706TS  601HD

Over 1 year in the air



GLJSOJ1 wrote:



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My 601XL is getting ready for inspection nest weekend and I can't find or figure out how to seal the canopy at the side rails.  My problem is that I have a 3/4 inch gap there. I have looked at weatherstripping, garage door seal, ACS catalog, auto shops, door seals. Unless someone has a better idea I plan to get s 3/4 to 1 inch thick sheet of closed cell-foam and cut strips to glue to the bottom of each rail.  The thickest door seal I have found is 1/2 inch.  



Thanks



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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

Here's the stuff I used: http://www.mcmaster.com/#8121a11/=1xen2e



I found it either at Home Depot or Lowes, I haven't seen it at either  

lately. I cut off the one inch angle and taped the rest to the inside  

of the canopy side frame with the 3/8th inch angle on the bottom  

facing inboard. I installed it while sitting inside the cabin with the  

canopy fully latched with the 3/8th inch angle just slightly pressing  

against the longeron doubler. This way, it doesn't interfere with the  

canopy closing even in the coldest weather and it seals the gap very  

well.



I originally had it extending from the instrument panel to the rear  

end of the rail, but the section aft of the latch kept snagging on the  

seat cushion and finally peeled off. So now it only extends aft to the  

latch and I have a short piece of foam weatherstrip stuck to the  

longeron doubler to seal the gap aft of the latch.

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 Check out McMaster-Carr, http://www.mcmaster.com. They have an large  

 assortment of seals. I used the Rubber Bulb seal and they can be  

 bought adhesive backed.



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> My 601XL is getting ready for inspection nest weekend and I can't  

> find or figure out how to seal the canopy at the side rails.  My  

> problem is


	




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N61BM, CH 601 XL,

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Juan Vega Jr

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 157

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

DOes not sound right with 3/4 inch gap.  You need to redo that and make it tighter.

Maybe 1/4, but 3/4"?

Juan



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Juan Vega Jr

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 157

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: CANOPY SEALING?

DOes not sound right with 3/4 inch gap.  You need to redo that and make it tighter.

Maybe 1/4, but 3/4"?

Juan



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GLJSOJ1

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 82
Location: Chesapeake, Virginia

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: CANOPY SEALING?

Thanks everyone.  I have more ideas to work with now.  As far as the gap being too wide, I think it a bit wide, but it is constant front to back, so to make it loser I guess I'd have to redo the front hinge first, but the rear rest on the latches so don't think I can lower that.  I will go with the foam first, then seek out the garage door seals to get a better looking and better fit.



Thanks again.

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