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Craymondw(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: Glasair RG crash

I read about a Glasair RG crash in Florida where two people were killed.  Was the plane a Gl 3? Were they doing areobatics or flying straight  and level. I understand the plane crashed in a heavily wooded area. I have  heard Glasairs fair better on open fields than Lancairs.  

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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: Glasair RG crash

On 07/14/2009 03:48 PM, Craymondw(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   I read about a Glasair RG crash in Florida where two people were

 killed. Was the plane a Gl 3? Were they doing areobatics or flying

 straight and level. I understand the plane crashed in a heavily wooded

 area. I have heard Glasairs fair better on open fields than Lancairs.


	


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          FAA Preliminary Data 



IDENTIFICATION

Regis#: 132JB        Make/Model: EXP       Description: GLASAIR RG

Date: 07/11/2009     Time: 1715

Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: Fatal     Mid Air: N    Missing: N

Damage: Destroyed



LOCATION

City: GREEN COVE SPRINGS   State: FL   Country: US



DESCRIPTION

AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES INTO A WOODED AREA, WAS THE 

SUBJECT OF AN ALERT NOTICE, WRECKAGE LOCATED NEAR THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER, 

THE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD WERE FATALLY INJURED, GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FL



INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   2

                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   1     Ser:   0     Min:   0    

Unk:   

                 # Pass:    1     Fat:   1     Ser:   0     Min:   0    

Unk:   

                 # Grnd:           Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:  

0     Unk:   



WEATHER: 1658Z 0908 10 SCT20 BKN035 28/22 A3019

OTHER DATA

Activity: Unknown      Phase: Unknown      Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ORLANDO, FL  (SO15)                   Entry date: 07/13/2009



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Apparently there was a witness to the Glasair crash and his observations

of the events appear to track with information from the Nangchang flying

with the Glasair.



The witness and his wife were fishing on the St Johns and the formation

with the Nangchang and Glasair were flying overhead. He describe the

events in detail that mirrored the report by the Nangchang pilot. After

the first rejoin they went into a spread formation with lead reversing

which caused the glasair to reposition to the outside of the turn. After

the first crossover, a reverse turn into the glasair was made and the

witness observed the glasair doing a barrel roll to the other side of

the lead. The little white airplane did another barrel roll went behind

a cloud and when he came out he was in a nose low tight spiral. He said

the tail was trying to come off. Dave ask if it came off, he said no it

was in the back and just flopped around. The airplane then descended

below the tree line to the east out of sight. From this information, it

appears that the "tail" must have been the elevator, had come lose and

was moving freely and not attached to the horizontal stab. If the

elevator has come lose, that would account for the failure to attempt

any kind of landing in adjacent fields, roads or open areas. If indeed

the elevator had torn lose from the mount hinges on one side it would

most likely tear the other side lose and be retained in the area by the

vertical stab. by the quarter inch u channel bar that ties the two

elevators together. That would account for the observation about the

tail flopping around in that the elevator would be free to move with

only the connecting rod and push pull tube attachment point holding into

place.

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Bruce(at)glasair.org
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject: Glasair RG crash

I believe it was a Glasair I RG.



Bruce

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Craymondw(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: Glasair RG crash

That description of the crash was sad to hear and I hate hearing about  it. When I built my Glasair I measured the elevator bracket bolts that fed into  the stabilizer spar and felt they were not long enough and replaced  them.  Before every flight I grab onto my elevators and try to move  them to feel if the hinges are tight and I check with a flash light to see if  all the bolts are tight or have moved out of position. I painted  little red alignment marks on my brackets,  bolt heads and nuts so that I  can easily see if they have moved. After I assembled the elevator, I  noticed the hinges binding. So I installed thin washers in between the brackets  and rod ends and that freed up the elevator. I feared if I flew it that way  I would have excessive wear on the hinges. EAA tech Joe Gauthier, felt the  elevator trim spring tension recommended by Stoddard Hamilton was too great and  installed spacers to loosen the springs up there by unloading the elevator  hinges of some of the load.  After priming and painting I noticed  that full up elevators would bind against the stabilizer skins and pains taking  sanded the paint from under the horizontal skin to free it up. I use WD 40  during my annual to flush out dirt.  Several years ago I had an out board  elevator rod end loosen up from wear and fixed it. I also had an  out board lock nut come off in mid air on the aileron of my Pitts while on  final and was able to safely land the plane. After that incident, I replaced all  the lock nuts with castle nuts and carter pins on my Pitts.    Soon after flying the time off my 1991 Glasair 2  S, I  replaced all the Nylock nuts with castle nuts and carter  pins. 

  

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