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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.

Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM flying in Oz


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I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

Gotta ask for the rest of the list, Ron.

What's a wog????
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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:00 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:
[quote]Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.

Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM flying in Oz


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Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:39 PM
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Subject: Protective covers?


I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

A bent pipe cleaner (W) poked into the vent will keep out critters. Mud daubers are a problem here in the SE, and the pipe cleaners work. You don't even have to remove them for flight.
Linn

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Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.

Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM flying in Oz


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I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

another reason to have two holes per vent line. I have the normal vent lines beveled forward and inside the fairing I have a #50 hole drilled in the backside of the vent line. This is in a protected area in case impact ice or snow would clog the normal vent.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
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Gotta ask for the rest of the list, Ron.

What's a wog????


grumpy
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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:00 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:
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Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.

Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM flying in Oz


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Protective covers?


I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

Aussie slang for any creepy crawley, bug, critter, insect etc. There are also a number of politically incorrect definitions that I won’t go in to, but none in that category will fit inside the vent line J.

Cheers
Ron



From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Protective covers?


Gotta ask for the rest of the list, Ron.


What's a wog????



grumpy

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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:00 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:




Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.



Cheers

Ron

VH-XRM flying in Oz




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Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Protective covers?




I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.



Overkill, or useful?



TDT



Tim Dawson-Townsend

40025

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

Oh, I get it.

Like American politicians!

grumpy
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On Mar 17, 2010, at 10:52 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:
[quote]Aussie slang for any creepy crawley, bug, critter, insect etc. There are also a number of politically incorrect definitions that I won’t go in to, but none in that category will fit inside the vent line J.

Cheers
Ron



From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 1:05 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Protective covers?


Gotta ask for the rest of the list, Ron.


What's a wog????



grumpy

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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:00 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:


Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.



Cheers

Ron

VH-XRM flying in Oz


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Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Protective covers?


I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.



Overkill, or useful?



TDT



Tim Dawson-Townsend

40025

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617-500-4812 (office)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:06 am    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

This is one of those things that has always intrigued me.  Has anyone done the math on if an #50 hole can provide the volume of air to offset 10+ gallons per hour?

Michael

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:31 PM
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another reason to have two holes per vent line. I have the normal vent lines beveled forward and inside the fairing I have a #50 hole drilled in the backside of the vent line. This is in a protected area in case impact ice or snow would clog the normal vent.

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:05 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Protective covers?
Gotta ask for the rest of the list, Ron.


What's a wog????



grumpy

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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:00 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:




Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.

Cheers

Ron

VH-XRM flying in Oz


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Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RV10-List: Protective covers?


I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend

40025

tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)

617-500-4812 (office)

617-905-4800 (mobile)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

I like Tim's check valve idea in case the vent line becomes blocked.

'Onya' (Aussie for good on you) again Tim.

Regards

Pat


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This is one of those things that has always intrigued me. Has anyone done the math on if an #50 hole can provide the volume of air to offset 10+ gallons per hour?

Michael

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Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:31 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
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another reason to have two holes per vent line. I have the normal vent lines beveled forward and inside the fairing I have a #50 hole drilled in the backside of the vent line. This is in a protected area in case impact ice or snow would clog the normal vent.

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:05 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Protective covers?
Gotta ask for the rest of the list, Ron.


What's a wog????



grumpy

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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:00 PM, McGann, Ron wrote:


Don’t have an opinion on the static ports. But I highly recommend a cover or preflight on the fuel vent lines. I had a wog crawl into the line and completely seal the vent – noticeable by a profound sucking noise when the fuel cap is removed. Having seen the consequences of a blocked vent (a badly crushed tank), I check the vent line is clear every flight.

Cheers

Ron

VH-XRM flying in Oz


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Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Protective covers?


I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend

40025

tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)

617-500-4812 (office)

617-905-4800 (mobile)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

The sensors have to be extremely sensitive to measure the change in pressure associated with a change in AOA, so putting a suction cup over the AOA port might have a negative effect on the calibration of the sensor(s). Just a thought, I don’t know the system or components.

Gordon Anderson
#41015, Switzerland
Empennage

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I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:23 pm    Post subject: Protective covers? Reply with quote

A suction cup won't work anyway, because the hole in the wing won't let you get any suction! I felt like a real dummy when I figured out why the little suction cups I bought to cover the upper and lower AFS ports would not stick to the wing. Duh!

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On Mar 18, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Gordon Anderson wrote:
The sensors have to be extremely sensitive to measure the change in pressure associated with a change in AOA, so putting a suction cup over the AOA port might have a negative effect on the calibration of the sensor(s). Just a thought, I don’t know the system or components.

Gordon Anderson
#41015, Switzerland
Empennage

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Subject: Protective covers?

I was thinking of making one or two little protective covers for my AOA pressure ports using a couple of suction cups with a “Remove before Flight” tag hanging off.

Overkill, or useful?

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
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