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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

http://tinyurl.com/zqkvfcp


Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:15 pm    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

On 7/17/2016 2:53 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
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Bob . . .
And here, we see the downside to using shortened URL links.


With a subject line that just says 'doc files' (?), did this come from
Bob, or from a hacker who is phishing using Bob's hacked account? With
the shortened link, you can't tell where it's taking you. With a full
URL link, it's usually pretty obvious whether you want to click on the
link.

Since most email clients and browsers can handle multi-line URL links
these days, have shortened links outlived their usefulness?

Charlie


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:23 pm    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

Woo hoo!!!
    -- Art Z.

Sent from my phone so please excuse typos and brevity.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:57 pm    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

On 7/17/2016 6:10 PM, Charlie England wrote:
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With a subject line that just says 'doc files' (?), did this come from
Bob, or from a hacker who is phishing using Bob's hacked account? With
the shortened link, you can't tell where it's taking you. With a full
URL link, it's usually pretty obvious whether you want to click on the
link.

Since most email clients and browsers can handle multi-line URL links
these days, have shortened links outlived their usefulness?

Bingo. I won't click on a link that doesn't have the full URL, and
isn't a well known destination. Far too easy to fall victim to the 13
year old next door...

-Dj

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Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:55 pm    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

If you know who it is !!!

Sent from my iPad

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On 18 Jul 2016, at 02:55 am, Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net> wrote:



> On 7/17/2016 6:10 PM, Charlie England wrote:
> With a subject line that just says 'doc files' (?), did this come from
> Bob, or from a hacker who is phishing using Bob's hacked account? With
> the shortened link, you can't tell where it's taking you. With a full
> URL link, it's usually pretty obvious whether you want to click on the
> link.
>
> Since most email clients and browsers can handle multi-line URL links
> these days, have shortened links outlived their usefulness?

Bingo. I won't click on a link that doesn't have the full URL, and isn't a well known destination. Far too easy to fall victim to the 13 year old next door...

-Dj

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Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/







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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:35 am    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

On 7/18/2016 2:53 AM, John Tipton wrote:
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If you know who it is !!!

But that is the point, it is trivially easy to fake an email to appear
as if it is coming from someone else.

Like this one for example, that is faked as if coming from you. Smile

You can't definitively know who is on the other end of the keyboard
unless we used cryptographic signatures or other unique identification
means.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:33 am    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

Fascinating, that's clever (and worrying)

John

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> On 7/18/2016 2:53 AM, John Tipton wrote:
> If you know who it is !!!

But that is the point, it is trivially easy to fake an email to appear as if it is coming from someone else.

Like this one for example, that is faked as if coming from you. Smile

You can't definitively know who is on the other end of the keyboard unless we used cryptographic signatures or other unique identification means.

-Dj







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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:50 am    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

On 7/18/2016 12:31 PM, John Tipton wrote:
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Fascinating, that's clever (and worrying)

It has been like that ever since email was invented. There are
additional security measures that can help to prevent this, but none of
them are perfect and most email services don't seem to use them.

Email was not designed to be a secure medium. It is up to us to just be
careful. Don't open links that you aren't sure of (tinyurl is a trivial
way to disguise a malicious website, as one example).

-Dj

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:10 am    Post subject: Doc flies . . . Reply with quote

And spell checker is my worst enema.
On 7/18/2016 11:49 AM, Dj Merrill wrote:
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On 7/18/2016 12:31 PM, John Tipton wrote:
> Fascinating, that's clever (and worrying)

It has been like that ever since email was invented. There are
additional security measures that can help to prevent this, but none
of them are perfect and most email services don't seem to use them.

Email was not designed to be a secure medium. It is up to us to just
be careful. Don't open links that you aren't sure of (tinyurl is a
trivial way to disguise a malicious website, as one example).

-Dj



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